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2000 Univega Modo Vincere (new to me)

Old 01-23-16, 10:13 AM
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2000 Univega Modo Vincere (new to me)

Not classic, not exactly vintage Univega Modo Vincere I picked up today thinking it was way too small for me. Purchased purely for its Campagnolo Veloce Group set and near mint wheels and mint Continental GP 3000 tires, not to mention the saddle. After raising the saddle it seems to almost fit me and actually rides pretty good. Seems the front fork was upgraded from a Univega Saber aluminum to a Kinesis if Bike Pedia is correct? The frame is Columbus Thron. It is not very heavy at all. Seems like a decent bike.

I was after the parts. The Veloce seems to shift very well. The seat bag had a tube, a C02 kit and a nice multi tool in it. The frame is in great condition with a few paint chips. I am not sure what to do with it? LOL

2000 Univega Modo Vincere Triple - BikePedia

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How do I measure this frame? Center to center I get 52 cm. Center to the top of the seat tube I get 56 cm. The seat tube and head tube both raise a bit high off of the top tube. I ride a 60 cm frame.

I thought Univega was a Japanese brand? This bike has a sticker that says made in the USA and foreign components?

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Old 01-23-16, 10:32 AM
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Any chance you could toss up a pick of the decal showing it was made in the US? Univega was a US company who contracted with builders in Japan and later Taiwan. I have a Univega which shows it was made in Taiwan and designed in the US...could that be what yours shows or used to show?

I always measure from C of crank to top or top tube. I dont like measuring to the top of the seat collar as its really arbitrary
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Any chance you could toss up a pick of the decal showing it was made in the US? Univega was a US company who contracted with builders in Japan and later Taiwan. I have a Univega which shows it was made in Taiwan and designed in the US...could that be what yours shows or used to show?

I always measure from C of crank to top or top tube. I dont like measuring to the top of the seat collar as its really arbitrary
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Any chance you could toss up a pick of the decal showing it was made in the US? Univega was a US company who contracted with builders in Japan and later Taiwan. I have a Univega which shows it was made in Taiwan and designed in the US...could that be what yours shows or used to show?

I always measure from C of crank to top or top tube. I dont like measuring to the top of the seat collar as its really arbitrary
From center to the top of the top tube is 53 cm. The top tube is 55 cm center to center.
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Measure however you usually measure your bikes. Other than Cannonades, I measure all frames the same way (center to top).

Univega was never a Japanese brand. They were a marketing company from the USA, that had bikes made in Japan, Taiwan, and more. A lot of people ass-u-me that all vintage Univegas were made in Japan by Miyata. This is not true.

Derby bought the Univega brand name in 1996 and slapped it on whatever bikes they wanted. Probably made by Raleigh USA, who they also owned at the time. Note, "assembled in USA" means very little. One could argue that all the made in China bikes that Walmart sells are "assembled in the USA". This bike is certainly A LOT better than a Walmart bike and is a nice model. I bought a similar bike that was a Mongoose. All Campy drive train, it was a really nice bike. I morphed the parts into a Trek, as buyers do not respond to the Mongoose name.

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Old 01-23-16, 10:57 AM
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Univega essentially ended in 1996. The brand was sold to Derby (Raleigh) and absorbed. It was just a brand name by 2000, no relation to the historical Univega. That model is probably more comparable to Raleigh's of the period, albeit with a different sticker.

Interesting if it was made in USA. More likely 'assembled' in the USA. Raleigh ownership history since the early 80s has been serpentine to say the least. Raleigh USA Techniums were made in the USA, but predate this IIRC.

EDIT: I was beaten to the post...

Not sure I'd classify Univega as purely a marketing company. The bikes were not rebadged models of another brand. They were made to specification. Many models used thicker gauge tubes for the downtube and chainstays (like Bianchi's old racing bikes), which made them subjectively more lively than some of the competitors.

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I had that same frame with yellow instead of blue, with the Saber fork.
It would be a great commuter bike, or bad-weather bike, for me.
It just didn't ring my bell as a workout or road bike.
(Perfect for our recent weather, when you just finish the durn ride)

I found it a bit heavy, never really manage to get a build to my liking.
Might have been wrench error, though. Liked the Columbus logos.

That looks like a nice cache of components.
The 3TTT Mutant stem is a cult favorite.
Those Cinelli bars were a hit when they came out, a favorite with some hipsters.
Seatpost is pretty cool, too. Nice 1" threadless fork setup.

Perfect group for a nice Italian frame, too. Or a Campy Ironman.... just sayin'
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Measure however you usually measure your bikes. Other than Cannonades, I measure all frames the same way (center to top).

Univega was never a Japanese brand. They were a marketing company from the USA, that had bikes made in Japan, Taiwan, and more. A lot of people ass-u-me that all vintage Univegas were made in Japan by Miyata. This is not true.
It's not true overall, but it was true up until the early to mid 80s or so, when they were IIRC nearly all made by Miyata, with a few exceptions.

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Derby bought the Univega brand name in 1996 and slapped it on whatever bikes they wanted. Probably made by Raleigh USA, who they also owned at the time. Note, "assembled in USA" means very little. One could argue that all the made in China bikes that Walmart sells are "assembled in the USA". This bike is certainly A LOT better than a Walmart bike and is a nice model. I bought a similar bike that was a Mongoose. All Campy drive train, it was a really nice bike. I morphed the parts into a Trek, as buyers do not respond to the Mongoose name.
Mongoose was very desirable about 15 to 20 years before, when every kid wanted a nickel Mongoose BMX bike. I had one... They did not adapt the brand well as the market changed.

Yeah, assembled in USA is meaningless. I meant it tongue in cheek.
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That sticker shows 'made in' and not 'assembled in'.
Just clarifying since its a distinctive difference.
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It'd be an easy choice for me: strip it for the group because it's not my size. That's just the sort of group I'd like to put in a box waiting for some frame to come along, or for the next time I decide to tear down and reincarnate my old Lambert

I'm assuming you got this at a really good price, because I know you're a smart shopper, Steve.
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Nice frame, nice components. I picked one up a year ago for the group as well, problem is the frame fits.

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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman View Post
It'd be an easy choice for me: strip it for the group because it's not my size. That's just the sort of group I'd like to put in a box waiting for some frame to come along, or for the next time I decide to tear down and reincarnate my old Lambert

I'm assuming you got this at a really good price, because I know you're a smart shopper, Steve.
Yeah, I got a very good price on the bike. I could more than double my money just on the group set on eBay.

The plan was just that, buy it for a future frame. Something nice with lugs.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
That sticker shows 'made in' and not 'assembled in'.
Just clarifying since its a distinctive difference.
Yep. It says " Made in the USA of US and Foreign Components". The headset says "Made in the USA".
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Nice frame, nice components. I picked one up a year ago for the group as well, problem is the frame fits.


That looks great!! So what size is yours?
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The thing that is throwing me off is that if this is a 53 cm frame, it should not almost feel like it fits? That is why I thought maybe a 56. I will strip it and try to sell the frame. I will just have to list all the different measurements. LOL
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That looks great!! So what size is yours?
Thanks Steve, it is very clean. ST 58cm C-to-C, TT 55cm C-to-C.
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Maybe the seat setback, plus top tube length, plus stem length make the bike effectively close to the same length as your keeper bikes?
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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
Nice frame, nice components. I picked one up a year ago for the group as well, problem is the frame fits.

I have this bike. Have had it since 1999 or 2000. US made Univega with a Campy group was a real eye-catcher. I keep it at my in-laws in TX. Doesn't get ridden alot but it does a nice job on the hilly (for me) poor quality (by any standard) roads I ride it on when I'm visiting the inlaws.
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Timely -i just got one too
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