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Old 01-30-16, 06:28 PM
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New option for our retro-roadie builds - but need oversize tubing

Any C&V bikes with a seat tube or down tube at least 31.6 mm inside diameter?

Because here is a new option for our retro-roadie builds:

Hidden motors for road bikes exist ? here?s how they work | CyclingTips

If this option can allow a 19 y/o U23 rider to ascend the Koppenburg 5% faster than all the female pros, only 21 sec slower than a top man (the great Sven Nys), then maybe it can help me keep up on the Portland C&V rides . . .

'Technological fraud' discovered at Zolder cyclocross worlds - VeloNews.com

Motors scandal: Indications that Belgian Under 23 rider becomes the first to be caught for mechanical doping | CyclingTips
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How long do I have to wait until it's considered vintage?
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I'm sure HiE made one, and it weighed negative grams.
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Read up on LeMond's rant and of some pros cheating with the mechanical dope. We've heard G.L. during the Armstrong saga and yes, LeMond has been vindicated. But it's pretty wild to even think and according to LeMond the snafu is with the lack or refusal of inspections!
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This would be perfect for l'eroica,
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Unreal. I'm placing this somewhere between pathetic and disgusting. Somehow it seems even worse than regular ol' doping.

(Of course I'm one of those guys that'd rather do something decently well on my own than cheat my way to excellence.)
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I think it is something that pro cycling can control pretty easily. The UCI checks bikes for motors by removing the crank (easy with modern bikes), X-ray machines, and now some sort of tablet device (details unclear). At the Tour they checked the top finishers' bikes after several stages. At Milan San Remo they checked every bike of certain teams. At the Road World Championships they checked bikes. Etc. They will now certainly check more bikes more often. A motorized bike is easily detected. Unlike drug/blood doping, where blatant cheats were able to dope greedily and foil the tests for over a decade, and riders still have some ways to dope without detection - although, those methods don't give as nearly much advantage as the previous doping methods did. And the UCI regulations on motor doping provide for punishment of the whole team, unlike human doping where the team almost always manages to distance itself from the popped rider. Makes sense, since in a road team, the team mechanics build and service the bikes. Cyclocross is different, the riders can bring their own mechanics (I'm told). It sounds like the UCI was tipped off here. They walked into the team pits after the first lap and went straight to this particular bike. I'm thinking the book will be thrown at this rider and her team (Belgian National Team), to make them an example.
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For the recreational rider, I see no issue, or commuting. E-bikes are pretty popular as commuters, as well. It's not the "total" power, anyway. I'm not getting any younger, and for trips to the store when I'm old and on my 3-wheeler, I see no issue other than a stronger motor being preferred.
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I am currently amassing components for a Retro Roady/Vintage meets modern with interesting mix of stuff. No motors though. Stay tuned.
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Reminded me of Smokey Yunick.
"Everybody is cheat n' , I'm just playing defense". (Or pretty close to that)
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
For the recreational rider, I see no issue, or commuting. .
Man that would be fun ---- I'm a Clydesdale and something like that might give a Clyde a fighting chance of staying with his friends on hilly group rides (not races )
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Fabian's not a clyde, he might have been using it years ago.
(not an accusation)

I wonder the cost of the motor & bottom bracket?
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Originally Posted by repechage
Reminded me of Smokey Yunick.
"Everybody is cheat n' , I'm just playing defense". (Or pretty close to that)
Said he that piped nitrous oxide in his rollcage frame.
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Originally Posted by jyl
Any C&V bikes with a seat tube or down tube at least 31.6 mm inside diameter?

Because here is a new option for our retro-roadie builds:

Hidden motors for road bikes exist ? here?s how they work | CyclingTips

If this option can allow a 19 y/o U23 rider to ascend the Koppenburg 5% faster than all the female pros, only 21 sec slower than a top man (the great Sven Nys), then maybe it can help me keep up on the Portland C&V rides . . .

'Technological fraud' discovered at Zolder cyclocross worlds - VeloNews.com

Motors scandal: Indications that Belgian Under 23 rider becomes the first to be caught for mechanical doping | CyclingTips
Cannondale Criterium Series.
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Some ebikes I see on the street look just like pure pedal bikes. Imagine the shock of seeing someone pass you easily while you're pedaling hard. One bike delivery company here recently added motors to their cargo bikes, the Yuba Mundo model. It's a big, heavy bike, and a young fellow zoomed by me, and I thought, wow, he's strong. Then I realized days later what the deal was.
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL
Said he that piped nitrous oxide in his rollcage frame.
He admitted the same in Popular Mechanics...
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
He admitted the same in Popular Mechanics...
Yeah, I'd read something like that long before the internet where he uncovered a few secrets of NASCAR teams.
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