BillyG.

Hi, yes I'm a newbie and in my first post I said I had some pictures of a bike that I could hardly find anything about it online which to me is VERY RARE. So here is an original A. Sutter Chatellerault. I know there made in France, Est. in 1896 by August Sutter in Loire Castle Valley, Chatellerault, France imported to the U.S. in 1970's by Belleri Co. Riviera Beach Florida, and I think most parts were made in Olmo Italy. Simplex gears and shifter's, Gallet seat forgot that pic, Nervar cranks and a BF stamped on the side of the handle bars. Any help please. Thanks for the time Billy, I hope you enjoy One more thing I wanted to add take a look at the rear rim all those tiny dimples must of took an lot of hand time, I don't see a machine making them back in the day. I did the best I could with the pic's. I have to resize pic's hang on for the whole bike pic's, sorry.

RobbieTunes

Very nice, welcome to the forum. Pictures of the bike would be most welcome, regardless of condition.
Some here would be salivating but for lack of more pictures.

Bikerider007

Yes, full bike pics yet close enough to see detail are appreciated. Also head lugs, seat lug area, dropout, fork crown and any other stuff you might think is cool.

nlerner

Sorry to burst any bubbles, but from those pics it looks like a pretty typical 70s road bike with fairly low-end parts. That rear rim might be a Rigida Chrolux, standard fair on Peugeot UO8s.

3speedslow

I am cleaning up a La Pierre Mixte for the LBS which has that BF stem.

Typical Simplex plastic with Solidarity cottered cranks. Frame is nicely made and paint detailed with gold stipes. The " Tour De France" model

OldsCOOL

Or Superchromix. I hated those heavy things on my '72 Mirage.

John E

Correction -- most of the parts are (appropriately) French. This looks like a Peugeot AO-8 equivalent (low-flange nutted hubs), which is not a bad thing, although neither high-end nor rare. Your marque, however, is completely new to me, and that is what excites me most about your find. I wonder if the situation is like Capo, which is pretty rare in the Americas, but at least somewhat known in central and eastern Europe.

Knurled steel rims were very popular in the 1960s and 1970s, as an attempt to compensate for steel's poor braking performance when wet or damp. I had them on my 1962 Bianchi, and I liked the whistling sound they made when I applied the brakes.

BillyG.

Sounds nice, across the pond they new what they were doing in those early days.

BillyG.

Thank's to John E. I'm glad to hear you know your parts.

Road Fan

I was going to offer the same as John E. There were a lot of French "UO-8 clones" out there, from Gitane, Motobecane, Mercier, other less-known French names, and probably scads of bike-shop brands. Turin Bicycle Co-op in Chicago had their own branded line (Turin, if I recall, with the Chicago Picasso on the head badge), with diamond frames, mixte style, and some up-market PX-10-like models. Even some pista models.

Lazyass

Is that a removable derailleur hanger?

BillyG.

I also just got my hands on a really old Super Executive W. Germany #887583 (muscle bike) I think there called.

BillyG.

I really haven't gone over the bike besides taking pics of the parts. Sorry not sure at the moment.

Insidious C. 

Welcome to BF! Thanks for sharing the pics. Very cool.

BillyG.

Thanks for the greeting. Also to anyone who saw the (muscle bike) I put up here I put that in a new Thread. Thanks.

ironwood

I bought a Turin from their Denver store. It would be called a gas pipe special now, but at the time I thought it was great. This was during the bike boom. The best thing about it was the Broks B-17 which I still have. They had better leather back then.

clubman 

Knurling was not limited to steel...here's some 70's Mavic alloys with the same treatment. Never seen another though.

BillyG.

Yes that does look similar except it looks like they made the dimples on a piece then put it on the rim, it being a weld or a solder of some sort you can tell from the picture itself. The one I have is on the rim itself. But thanks for showing that this sort of procedure does get used and or copied in one way or another. Thanks for posting.

clubman 

Picture is deceptive. I think the line just a machining mark, not an additional "layer" added to baking surface.

BillyG.

Yes very well could be, thanks for posting

Kalikiano

Interested to see your images of the A. Sutter (Chatellerault) bicycle. I also have one (seems to be an early 70s iteration), acquired about 10 years ago and was quite puzzled at the time by what it might be (I had no idea, really). However, after I got it, I had it professionally upgraded with new components (everything) with the idea of using it occasionally as a bicycle commuter in Sacramento CA (I added it to my 'bike stable', where it joined 7 other road bikes, after the upgrade). I would generally ride a different one each day. I have attached a few pictures of it as it is now, harnessed to an indoor bicycle ergonometer/exerciser. It can be removed and used on the street, of course, and despite being a 70s iteration, it handles quite well and is quite enjoyable to ride with its contemporary running gear. I also have an original 1971 Peugeot PX-10 (not an 'E') that I bought new in that year for US$150, two 80s vintage Japanese Fuji roadracers, a nice 80s vintage Eddy Mercyx, a somewhat rare 1989 Lemond 'Alpe d'Huez' Tour de France winner clone (carbon fiber) and one or two others.


[Reference the images: Well, I can't seem to get the images to upload properly (a warning sub menu appears and states "ALERT" and no other info provided...WTF?!)]

merziac

So welcome aboard, glad you found us, this is a Zombie thread so.....

Last post was 5 years ago.

You need 10 posts, 2 days x 5 posts to post pics, anti spam measure that serves us very well.

You can put them in an album and someone may move them here.

We would love to see it.

Kalikiano

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Thanks for that explanation, but I really don't have lots of available time to comply with the 'anti-spam' proscription (10+ visits before uploads are permitted, etc.), so it's uncertain as to whether they will 'make it' to 'uploadable' status here or not. Ah well. It was certainly worth a try.
Cheers, -K2 (Kalikiano).

merziac

No worries, you're welcome and while I/we get that it is offputting, it's not that difficult, you're up to 2 already.

Many here invest, waste, spend a lot of time here digging and trying to help based on a huge amount of collective experience that can solve many things that cannot get done anywhere else.

Again, your uploads may already be in an album but its above my paygrade to move them here.

You have an impressive collection and we are your target audience, I would encourage you stick with us, you will likely get plenty of good information that you won't/can't anywhere else.

It is very likely to be well worth your time.

cb400bill

Those anti spam tools help keep this site quite spam free. We like that.

Anyway, here are your pics.