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srinath.the.man 02-13-16 04:29 PM

Getting a miyata in rough shape
 
I will be getting a miyata pretty soon.
Only thing he told me was that it was yellow and rough.

Would it make a fixie w/freewheel project ? As in cut off all the cable carriers for derailleurs and such silliness, through drill the brake cable holders, weld the slots shut, pass cables through them for the rear brake and dismantle all of it and powdercoat it. And refit it with original (except derailleurs and that horrible rear hub gear setup).

Or are these holy and not to be hacked up ???

Thanks.
Srinath.

exmechanic89 02-13-16 04:32 PM

Do whatever you want, it'll be your bike..

arimajol 02-13-16 04:33 PM

Unless it's a top tier model, it isn't especially rare or valuable. But no reason to go to all that trouble and destruction. If you want a track bike, get a track bike.

srinath.the.man 02-13-16 06:11 PM

He he, It should be good to warrant that kind of effort and yet not that good that it is valued as collectible in its rotted out but original state.

Thanks.
Srinath.

mstateglfr 02-13-16 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by srinath.the.man (Post 18534241)
I will be getting a miyata pretty soon.
Only thing he told me was that it was yellow and rough.

Would it make a fixie w/freewheel project ? As in cut off all the cable carriers for derailleurs and such silliness, through drill the brake cable holders, weld the slots shut, pass cables through them for the rear brake and dismantle all of it and powdercoat it. And refit it with original (except derailleurs and that horrible rear hub gear setup).

Or are these holy and not to be hacked up ???

Thanks.
Srinath.

Seems like a ton of work which isnt necessary, but do it if you want

degan 02-13-16 09:08 PM

What would be the benefit of cutting off all the braze-ons? Its not like it gets in the way or adds an incredible amount of weight and if you ever decide to sell the frame it'll be easier if it has all those parts on it still.

HTupolev 02-13-16 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by degan (Post 18534743)
What would be the benefit of cutting off all the braze-ons?

Fixie cyclists often go as far as removing the front brake to produce a clean and simple machine. While I don't advocate ditching the front brake (and it sounds like the OP is actually going for a non-fixie SS including rear brake, so that probably isn't an issue), if you're working with a frame that doesn't have much resell value as-is anyway and you care about having an aesthetically elegant result, filing out unused braze-ons kind of makes sense.

degan 02-13-16 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by HTupolev (Post 18534768)
Fixie cyclists often go as far as removing the front brake to produce a clean and simple machine. While I don't advocate ditching the front brake (and it sounds like the OP is actually going for a non-fixie SS including rear brake, so that probably isn't an issue), if you're working with a frame that doesn't have much resell value as-is anyway and you care about having an aesthetically elegant result, filing out unused braze-ons kind of makes sense.

I understand the concept of a fixie. As a matter of fact for years I had a fixie with no front or real brakes. I didn't, however, physically alter the bike in a way that would result in the frame becoming worthless unless it stays as a fixie forever. I eventually sold the frame to someone who built it up as intended. If aesthetic is the only benefit when drewing a frame, I'd instead use the money intended towards the powder coat and whatnot to just find a cheap fixed gear frame.

Lascauxcaveman 02-14-16 12:41 AM

Yes. get rid of derailleurs and cables and all that silliness. Those things are just so silly!

srinath.the.man 02-14-16 02:22 PM

Well no Miyata for me. That thing was a "sports" model and other than being beyond crappy ... well, it was a sports model, and dark yellow. Looked hideous.
I passed.
Got a Huge schwinn. Like an XL or bigger.
New thread on it.
Thanks all,
Sorry for all the excitement (I wish) over nothing.
Cool.
Srinath.

srinath.the.man 02-14-16 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 18534994)
Yes. get rid of derailleurs and cables and all that silliness. Those things are just so silly!

I am definitely keeping the brakes. You see I grew up in India where we are used to single speed bikes. I didn't get a 5 speed till 1987, and I was in engineering school, and all my classmates one upped me by getting 10 speeds. However my pearl white fading to blue atlas concord 5 was unique, cos no one else had one of those, and it had a mechanical speedometer as well as full fenders etc etc. Cool bike.
6 months later, I got my first motorcycle and relegated that guy to my brother. LOL.


Anyway cables for brakes I definitely need. The deraileur's I dont greatly care for. I hate the front one, and the rear ones look fugly - Just IMHO.

Now being a hardcore biker - motorcycle'er that is, the sight of an inner cable simply brings back those flashback's of days where a snapped clutch cable left me with a lot of creative shifting and what not to get home, and when a snapped throttle cable - well never had that happen, but once the throttle cable nut worked itself loose slowly and I open full throttle and barely get it 1/4 ... limped home in 2nd gear cos it barely made 4000 rpm. I thought the bike was a goner. Except, it idled and took off great with 3/4 throttle. D-uh.

So I'd drill the cable stops so the outer goes through as well, then maybe weld the slot so it looks like a cable passthrough point. I have welders on speed dial, and I drill em, so wont be much at all.

Thanks.
Srinath.


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