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"Just an old fart with his Pall Malls"
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What??? Only 2 wheels?
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I have a serious question that I've been wondering about. I'm a birder and I note that when a pigeon or group of them take off in flight, their wings make a squeaking sound. I was speaking to the naturalist at a bird sanctuary, who didn't know the answer, but named off other birds whose wings make that sound, yet other "cousin" birds don't make it.
It it begs the question, "Why?"
I want to know, mechanically, what action is making that sound - specifically what feather or structures are rubbing together to make that sound? Does the bird's oil "formula" make a difference? Like maybe one bird produces oiler oil and the other bird produces more waxy oil. Does that contribute?
So that's what I really want to know.
#2 . Why do some fellas refer to their bike as "her"? Please don't say things related to "riding", etc. That's too obvious.
It it begs the question, "Why?"
I want to know, mechanically, what action is making that sound - specifically what feather or structures are rubbing together to make that sound? Does the bird's oil "formula" make a difference? Like maybe one bird produces oiler oil and the other bird produces more waxy oil. Does that contribute?
So that's what I really want to know.
#2 . Why do some fellas refer to their bike as "her"? Please don't say things related to "riding", etc. That's too obvious.
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"Just an old fart with his Pall Malls"
clubman.
Actually, I smoked Camel (plain) since the mid 60's and was quite perturbed when
The Government of Canada banned their sale here, (2005) I now having switched to
a domestic brand known a Export (plain).
People knowing my preference, would ask, "Are you Smoking Less and Enjoying it More?"
My retort being, No! I am Smoking More and Enjoying it Less!
......................................................................................
"Das easy. No bellybutton."
jimmuller
Bingo!
Regards,
J T
clubman.
Actually, I smoked Camel (plain) since the mid 60's and was quite perturbed when
The Government of Canada banned their sale here, (2005) I now having switched to
a domestic brand known a Export (plain).
People knowing my preference, would ask, "Are you Smoking Less and Enjoying it More?"
My retort being, No! I am Smoking More and Enjoying it Less!
......................................................................................
"Das easy. No bellybutton."
jimmuller
Bingo!
Regards,
J T
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I have a serious question that I've been wondering about. I'm a birder and I note that when a pigeon or group of them take off in flight, their wings make a squeaking sound. I was speaking to the naturalist at a bird sanctuary, who didn't know the answer, but named off other birds whose wings make that sound, yet other "cousin" birds don't make it.
It it begs the question, "Why?"
I want to know, mechanically, what action is making that sound - specifically what feather or structures are rubbing together to make that sound? Does the bird's oil "formula" make a difference? Like maybe one bird produces oiler oil and the other bird produces more waxy oil. Does that contribute?
So that's what I really want to know.
#2 . Why do some fellas refer to their bike as "her"? Please don't say things related to "riding", etc. That's too obvious.
It it begs the question, "Why?"
I want to know, mechanically, what action is making that sound - specifically what feather or structures are rubbing together to make that sound? Does the bird's oil "formula" make a difference? Like maybe one bird produces oiler oil and the other bird produces more waxy oil. Does that contribute?
So that's what I really want to know.
#2 . Why do some fellas refer to their bike as "her"? Please don't say things related to "riding", etc. That's too obvious.
Number two might be related to ships and other machines being referred to in the feminine. In other words, anything that appears to be better than we are. Or maybe something that we feel we can control.
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I have a serious question that I've been wondering about. I'm a birder and I note that when a pigeon or group of them take off in flight, their wings make a squeaking sound. I was speaking to the naturalist at a bird sanctuary, who didn't know the answer, but named off other birds whose wings make that sound, yet other "cousin" birds don't make it.
It it begs the question, "Why?"
I want to know, mechanically, what action is making that sound - specifically what feather or structures are rubbing together to make that sound? Does the bird's oil "formula" make a difference? Like maybe one bird produces oiler oil and the other bird produces more waxy oil. Does that contribute?
So that's what I really want to know.
It it begs the question, "Why?"
I want to know, mechanically, what action is making that sound - specifically what feather or structures are rubbing together to make that sound? Does the bird's oil "formula" make a difference? Like maybe one bird produces oiler oil and the other bird produces more waxy oil. Does that contribute?
So that's what I really want to know.
Sorry, no sources other than practical experience. My textbooks on the subject are packed away .
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What does the expression 'Do wa diddy diddy bump diddy bump' mean?
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#2 . Why do some fellas refer to their bike as "her"? Please don't say things related to "riding", etc. That's too obvious.
related but not: My son is driving a Volvo station wagon for his high school car. He named the car Suzanne. I had to ask why. the reply: 2 kid, soccer mom car.
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I have a serious question that I've been wondering about. I'm a birder and I note that when a pigeon or group of them take off in flight, their wings make a squeaking sound. I was speaking to the naturalist at a bird sanctuary, who didn't know the answer, but named off other birds whose wings make that sound, yet other "cousin" birds don't make it.
It it begs the question, "Why?"
I want to know, mechanically, what action is making that sound - specifically what feather or structures are rubbing together to make that sound? Does the bird's oil "formula" make a difference? Like maybe one bird produces oiler oil and the other bird produces more waxy oil. Does that contribute?
So that's what I really want to know.
#2 . Why do some fellas refer to their bike as "her"? Please don't say things related to "riding", etc. That's too obvious.
It it begs the question, "Why?"
I want to know, mechanically, what action is making that sound - specifically what feather or structures are rubbing together to make that sound? Does the bird's oil "formula" make a difference? Like maybe one bird produces oiler oil and the other bird produces more waxy oil. Does that contribute?
So that's what I really want to know.
#2 . Why do some fellas refer to their bike as "her"? Please don't say things related to "riding", etc. That's too obvious.
Is this cool or what? Birds produce the whistling via airflow through the tips of their feathers. In some species, that sound signals when a threat approaches:
When Mourning Doves take flight air vibrates the tips of their flight feathers, which causes the whistling sound. This is not uncommon in birds; most birds produce sounds when they fly. For example, wing sounds are what give hummingbirds their name. Many owls have had to evolve special feathers in order to keep their wings silent when hunting. But what’s special about the dove’s wing sound is its ability to communicate danger; at least, that’s the theory.
To test this theory researchers recorded the wing whistles of a flock of doves during normal takeoff and one during a panicked takeoff. When they played the normal takeoff sounds to a group of doves, as well as to other birds at a feeder, none of the birds paid much attention to it. But when they played sounds of panicked wing whistles, not only did the doves split but all the other birds did, too. It became clear that birds are able to pick up the subtle differences between normal and panicked dove wing whistles.
To test this theory researchers recorded the wing whistles of a flock of doves during normal takeoff and one during a panicked takeoff. When they played the normal takeoff sounds to a group of doves, as well as to other birds at a feeder, none of the birds paid much attention to it. But when they played sounds of panicked wing whistles, not only did the doves split but all the other birds did, too. It became clear that birds are able to pick up the subtle differences between normal and panicked dove wing whistles.
When I was a wee tyke, first grade or so, I asked my Dad why ships were "she". He told me straight faced, "Because they can't grow whiskers". Since I still thought Dad knew everything (and could beat up Superman), I accepted that answer for years. I haven't heard a better one.
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@Jadesfire & @SloButWide - FANTASTIC! Thanks so much for this. I'll use this info. as a base for further research. Outstanding. I understand certain hunting birds, esp. forest hunting birds are often very quiet with their wing sounds.
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I have a serious question that I've been wondering about. I'm a birder and I note that when a pigeon or group of them take off in flight, their wings make a squeaking sound. I was speaking to the naturalist at a bird sanctuary, who didn't know the answer, but named off other birds whose wings make that sound, yet other "cousin" birds don't make it.
My question: How much wood would a Woodchuck chuck?
We have no woodchucks here in coastal Northern California so I must rely on the expertise of those of you who live in close proximity to Woodchucks.
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