Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

I think my search for an Italian is over.

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

I think my search for an Italian is over.

Old 03-09-16, 10:02 PM
  #1  
lesterp66
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: SoCal
Posts: 173

Bikes: '95 Allez Sport, '81 Miyata Team, '82 Sequoia, '84 Guerciotti GLX '85 Ironman, '85 Trek 600, '91 Trek 2100

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts
I think my search for an Italian is over.

This popped up on CL today and after 2 years of acute checkitus for an italian at a price I could afford, I felt like a crack addict when I went to the ATM, the shakes and everything. I certainly know a Guerciotti is a bike worth having and that this is a gem but that's all I know. Serial is faint but looks like N5351470. The frame looks like an early 80s to me. Seems to be all Nuovo Record except for Dura Ace brakes. It needs a bit of a clean but the grease hasn't dried out and its definitely in ride-able condition and to cap it all off, the paint is flawless, I can't find any dings and there is zero rust. I 'm aready sad the hunt is over


Attached Images
File Type: jpg
crank.jpg (98.3 KB, 167 views)
File Type: jpg
bars.jpg (73.0 KB, 159 views)
File Type: jpg
bb.jpg (84.8 KB, 168 views)
File Type: jpg
bb2.jpg (96.8 KB, 166 views)
File Type: jpg
bike.jpg (100.7 KB, 234 views)
File Type: jpg
dura.jpg (100.0 KB, 175 views)
File Type: jpg
hub.jpg (98.1 KB, 163 views)
File Type: jpg
rd.jpg (94.8 KB, 174 views)
File Type: jpg
seatp.jpg (96.6 KB, 159 views)
File Type: jpg
slx.jpg (99.3 KB, 187 views)
File Type: jpg
strada.jpg (87.1 KB, 150 views)
File Type: jpg
crown.jpg (92.5 KB, 151 views)

Last edited by lesterp66; 03-09-16 at 10:10 PM.
lesterp66 is offline  
Old 03-09-16, 10:08 PM
  #2  
arimajol 
Senior Member
 
arimajol's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: mke
Posts: 261

Bikes: Some old steel, some new steel

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 38 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Really nice score! Congrats. Looks like it'll be a great rider. I love that panto-ed brake bridge.
arimajol is offline  
Old 03-09-16, 10:13 PM
  #3  
Bikerider007 
Senior Member
 
Bikerider007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: AZ
Posts: 2,457

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 459 Post(s)
Liked 44 Times in 28 Posts
Congrats! I really like all the little cutouts and designs on Guerciotti. IMO, one of the best in that regard.
Bikerider007 is offline  
Old 03-09-16, 10:18 PM
  #4  
Dave Cutter
Senior Member
 
Dave Cutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: D'uh... I am a Cutter
Posts: 6,159

Bikes: '17 Access Old Turnpike Gravel bike, '14 Trek 1.1, '13 Cannondale CAAD 10, '98 CAD 2, R300

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1571 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts
Beautiful! Every minute of searching was worth it.
Dave Cutter is offline  
Old 03-09-16, 10:29 PM
  #5  
repechage
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 17,398
Mentioned: 113 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2388 Post(s)
Liked 1,306 Times in 986 Posts
Good color for a race bike.
Sugino cranks were a good alternative to Campagnolo.
Interesting the big ring at least is Campagnolo. Ditch the dust caps, race bikes don't need them.
Eventually spring for Campagnolo brakes. Even before thinking about different crank arms.
You did well.
repechage is offline  
Old 03-09-16, 11:04 PM
  #6  
lesterp66
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: SoCal
Posts: 173

Bikes: '95 Allez Sport, '81 Miyata Team, '82 Sequoia, '84 Guerciotti GLX '85 Ironman, '85 Trek 600, '91 Trek 2100

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Maybe the original owner needed to shave a few bucks off and opted for sugino and shimano, the pedals aren't campy either... It doesn't seem like this was swapping in components due to wear, the bike hasn't seen much action. Flawless paint, no brake marks on rims. I guess I'm going to have to spit shine it.
lesterp66 is offline  
Old 03-09-16, 11:18 PM
  #7  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 19,348

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 168 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5434 Post(s)
Liked 2,268 Times in 1,471 Posts
Great find. I don't think this bike has a lot of miles either. I wouldn't swap out any of the parts. Having mis-matching parts is period correct.
bikemig is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 05:49 AM
  #8  
jimmuller 
What??? Only 2 wheels?
 
jimmuller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston-ish, MA
Posts: 13,401

Bikes: 73 Raleigh Carlton Gran Sport, 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 87 Centurion Ironman Expert, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PF10

Mentioned: 186 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1212 Post(s)
Liked 489 Times in 192 Posts
After you've taken it out for a few miles give us a report on the handling.
__________________
Real cyclists use toe clips.
With great bikes comes great responsibility.
jimmuller
jimmuller is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 05:54 AM
  #9  
OTS 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bloomington/Normal IL
Posts: 975
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 104 Post(s)
Liked 127 Times in 76 Posts
Great score, congrats
OTS is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 06:16 AM
  #10  
daf1009
Senior Member
 
daf1009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 3,178

Bikes: LESS than I did a year ago!

Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 70 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Great bike! Seems like your time awaiting was worth it...as for changing things out...do what you want...it looks great as is!
daf1009 is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 06:28 AM
  #11  
Barrettscv 
Have bike, will travel
 
Barrettscv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lake Geneva, WI
Posts: 12,302

Bikes: Ridley Helium SLX, Canyon Endurance SL, De Rosa Professional, Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra, Schwinn Paramount (1 painted, 1 chrome), Peugeot PX10, Serotta Nova X, Simoncini Cyclocross Special, Raleigh Roker, Pedal Force CG2 and CX2

Mentioned: 45 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 868 Post(s)
Liked 213 Times in 115 Posts
Excellent find, congrats! Excellent photography also.
__________________
When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.
Barrettscv is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 07:08 AM
  #12  
jeirvine 
Senior Member
 
jeirvine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Bethesda/Baltimore MD
Posts: 3,801

Bikes: '72 Moto Grand Record, '72 Gitane tandem, '72 Raleigh Super Course, '73 Raleigh Gran Sport, '73 and '76 Colnagos Super, '76 Fiorelli Coppi, '78 Raleigh SBDU Team Pro, '78 Trek 930, '81 Holdsworth Special 650B, '86 Masi GC, '87 Panasonic DX5000

Mentioned: 60 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 706 Post(s)
Liked 347 Times in 198 Posts
Very cool find! What are the date codes on the RD and crank?

Date of Manufacture of Bicycle Components can be used to date a bike: component dating

High flange hubs would seem to be earlier than the 80's, though the rims seem later. You can also check the hub lock nuts for dates.
__________________
The man who dies with the most toys…is dead. - Rootboy
jeirvine is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 07:15 AM
  #13  
EricAr
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 26
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Congratulations!

Hopefully I will find an Italian I can afford as well someday, too!
EricAr is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 07:19 AM
  #14  
Lazyass
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Minas Ithil
Posts: 9,330
Mentioned: 66 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2425 Post(s)
Liked 610 Times in 380 Posts
That's one sweet bike. My favorite color. I'd have to acquire Campy brakes. A Shimano/Campy mix would bug me.
Lazyass is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 07:36 AM
  #15  
Henry III
is just a real cool dude
 
Henry III's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: The Thumb, MI
Posts: 3,167
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 22 Times in 9 Posts
Congrats! Out of all my vintage bikes my Guerc has lastest the longest and will stay with me till I can't ride it anymore. Dang and it's even SLX! What's your plans for it? Get it matching or rock it the way it is?
Henry III is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 07:38 AM
  #16  
T-Mar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 22,750
Mentioned: 604 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4484 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2,558 Times in 1,621 Posts
The frame would appear to be no older than 1985. Guerciotti came out with an SLX model in 1984 but the pump peg wasn't added until 1985. I suspect the components came from donor bikes as even the Camppagnolo parts would be incorrect. Large flange hubs were rarely spec'd by the 1980s and these have the old pre-CSPC skewer nuts. The rear derailleur would be SR, as opposed to NR on an SLX frame. The lack of chrome on the frame is atypical and it may be a repaint. However, it does appear to be a genuine SLX frame as it has the investment cast seat lug and bridgeless bottom bracket which were unique to the SLX frame through to at least the very late 1980s, after which I lost track. Still, I'd be removing the bottom bracket and checking the inside bottom of the tubes for the helical ridges that are indicative of SLX.
T-Mar is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 07:57 AM
  #17  
Fahrenheit531 
No Chain Lube Preference
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,913

Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 704 Post(s)
Liked 475 Times in 251 Posts
Woohoo!
__________________
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 08:15 AM
  #18  
fiataccompli
Steel Member
 
fiataccompli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 1,480

Bikes: N + 1

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
congrats! finding one & finding one at a reasonable price are two different things. Enjoy it!
fiataccompli is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 08:28 AM
  #19  
Oldguyonoldbike
Senior Member
 
Oldguyonoldbike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 790

Bikes: Casati Laser, Colnago Tecnos, Ciöcc Exige, Black Mountain Cycles Road

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 114 Post(s)
Liked 128 Times in 59 Posts
Congratulations! The bike looks great and should be a great rider too.
You know, though, that the search is never really over.
Oldguyonoldbike is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 08:31 AM
  #20  
amulinder
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 55

Bikes: Orbea Orca 2011, Holdsworth Sirocco 1951, Holdsworth Super Mistral 1968, Holdsworth Cyclone 1962, Claud Butler Avant Courier Special 195?, Sun Wasp (1935), Sun Manxman (1953), Sun Ladyback tandem (1955), Dawes Super Galaxy 1984

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by lesterp66 View Post
I 'm aready sad the hunt is over


The hunt is only just beginning my friend! Till the next one..!
amulinder is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 08:48 AM
  #21  
lesterp66
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: SoCal
Posts: 173

Bikes: '95 Allez Sport, '81 Miyata Team, '82 Sequoia, '84 Guerciotti GLX '85 Ironman, '85 Trek 600, '91 Trek 2100

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Thanks for the info T-Mar! Pretty sure you figured it out with the repaint. The campy stamping on the drop outs, the serial and the TSD on the brake bridge are all very faint due to thick modern paint...? Also the older hubs, which look well used on what must have been NOS rims, there is almost no evidence of any breaking. I will pop the bb over coffee and check for slx, but either way I am riding it to work today

Last edited by lesterp66; 03-10-16 at 09:24 AM.
lesterp66 is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 04:39 PM
  #22  
lesterp66
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: SoCal
Posts: 173

Bikes: '95 Allez Sport, '81 Miyata Team, '82 Sequoia, '84 Guerciotti GLX '85 Ironman, '85 Trek 600, '91 Trek 2100

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
Still, I'd be removing the bottom bracket and checking the inside bottom of the tubes for the helical ridges that are indicative of SLX.
There definitely are ridges on the seat tube.

I am sure it is a repaint but a really good one, and frankenbike in every way but that works better for me since I want to make it a 2x9 modernish campy group.

Last edited by lesterp66; 04-14-16 at 10:21 PM.
lesterp66 is offline  
Old 04-14-16, 10:27 PM
  #23  
lesterp66
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: SoCal
Posts: 173

Bikes: '95 Allez Sport, '81 Miyata Team, '82 Sequoia, '84 Guerciotti GLX '85 Ironman, '85 Trek 600, '91 Trek 2100

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Had to ride on the coattails of WolfgangVerne's beautiful GLX build with my effort, definitely a different direction but same great frame at the core. All Veloce 9 speed minus the crankset.


Last edited by lesterp66; 04-14-16 at 11:12 PM.
lesterp66 is offline  
Old 04-14-16, 11:25 PM
  #24  
Narhay
Senior Member
 
Narhay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 3,704
Mentioned: 117 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 944 Post(s)
Liked 511 Times in 291 Posts
I like the blue with the black
Narhay is offline  
Old 04-15-16, 04:50 AM
  #25  
jimmuller 
What??? Only 2 wheels?
 
jimmuller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston-ish, MA
Posts: 13,401

Bikes: 73 Raleigh Carlton Gran Sport, 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 87 Centurion Ironman Expert, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PF10

Mentioned: 186 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1212 Post(s)
Liked 489 Times in 192 Posts
I see you replaced the wheels. After reading T-Mar's comments I looked more closely at the "before" pics and noticed this:

Originally Posted by lesterp66 View Post
Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
... and these have the old pre-CSPC skewer nuts.
That skewer is too short and doesn't fully engage the threads of the acorn, probably because it was for a 120mm hub but pressed into service for 126mm. I know people do this, but I'd worry about stripping the threads on the skewer, given how we want them to be tight at least on the rear.
__________________
Real cyclists use toe clips.
With great bikes comes great responsibility.
jimmuller
jimmuller is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.