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Old 03-09-16, 11:08 PM
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decent looking panniers that won't break the bank?

Still trying to figure out what to do to get my Voyageur equipped to haul gear. Would like to stick with a more vintage/classic friendly look... like leather or earth-tones. Trying to stay away from bright and flashy. Would like brown, tan, olive, etc. Waterproof is a plus, and maybe something with a nice quick latching system.

I've spent hours the last 2 days doing nothing but staring at lists and lists of panniers.

The real leather ones seem prohibitively expensive. I don't mind paying a little more for quality, but don't want to put over $500 in just bags! For example Frost River looks great, but $260x2 for f/r panniers, $140 for trunk, 660!?!

I kind of like the Ortlieb front roller plus (2014) in hazel, and price isn't too bad at https://www.bikebagshop.com/ortlieb-...14-p-1006.html but I cannot find any matching 'hazel' rear panniers/trunk. And conversely I've found a 'cofee' colored Ortlieb back roller urban that isn't too bad https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content...5D=0;orderby=4 but then I wouldn't have matching front.

Or should I just give in to black, or modern looking ones. Open for any suggestions.
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Have you looked at Carradice bags? They're not cheap but run less than Frost river. I like Jandd bags a lot.
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I am searching for panniers myself. What I find out is you have to pay extra for either quality or style/look. If you want both theyll be super expensive.
I think I will go for Ortleibs black front and rear. I was also looking at MSX panniers, they seem to be very good quality and a bit cheaper then Ortleibs. But are also modern styled. ;(
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No expert here, but I am in Portland OR and it rains a bit here. I have the best luck with Ortliebs and a lot of riders here that ride way more than I do swear by them. Also I would opt for Red, Yellow or White,which is what I have and get compliments all the time for visibility.
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Visibility is very important, you don't want to get run over because someone didn't see you. I'm still in the browsing mode too, for panniers, it's definitely a bit of an investment. Something else to think about, is the ease of attachment & disattachment. I wouldn't want to just leave them on the bike very long, especially in a strange area.
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Linus roll-up panniers hold up well, have that Brooks type look and are 1/2 the price. The ones in the picture have gotten about 2 year of use hauling stuff several times a week. They are good for about 30lbs in each bag.



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Originally Posted by T Stew

Or should I just give in to black, or modern looking ones. Open for any suggestions.
Good question. I'm struggling with that a bit myself. I'm leaning towards Carradice Kendals for my new bike. Price is not bad if you buy them from the UK. Does anyone use a trunk bag? I've always used the top of rack to bungee a sleeping bag, tent and pad.

FWIW, "modern looking" ones would be period correct for your bike, as the only panniers anyone used from at least the mid/early 70s to maybe ~10 years ago were the modern nylon type. Kirkland, Cannondale, Eclipse and Jannd were the typical brands in the 80s, and Avenir was around.
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I hear a lot of good things about Ort. bags, toured with a friend and she had them, held up well, but we weren't going too far.

IMHO one can't get more retro than a set of cannondale bags, though they're not waterproof unless you proof them yourself. I have a set of Jandid bags that I haven't tried yet, but look sturdy.
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Keep your eyes open for some vintage Cannondales, Kirtlands, or Nashbars.
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Originally Posted by Velognome
Linus roll-up panniers hold up well, have that Brooks type look and are 1/2 the price. The ones in the picture have gotten about 2 year of use hauling stuff several times a week. They are good for about 30lbs in each bag.



Not bad, but I should clarify my rack system as I don't think this style will work to well with (I've never used racks & panniers so not really sure). I have Tubus Cosmo rear and Tubus Nova Lowrider front. I'm not sure if the drape-over-rack bags will work well because the Cosmo has separate lower pannier mount bars, and the front are separate lowrider racks.

Originally Posted by merziac
No expert here, but I am in Portland OR and it rains a bit here. I have the best luck with Ortliebs and a lot of riders here that ride way more than I do swear by them. Also I would opt for Red, Yellow or White,which is what I have and get compliments all the time for visibility.
Yes, I have heard a lot of praise for the Orts. I see your point on visibility, and usually I am way more utility over fashion (doing all sorts of modernizing old frames with ergos, carbon cranks, etc) but my '88 Voyager I really wanted to keep classy looking with maybe Brooks saddle, leather bar tape, silver fenders, etc. I'm a bit hesitant on the modern looks. I'll have reflectors and lights on the bike. Maybe some florescent bag covers if they are not already waterproof.

Realize too that this will just be used for light touring, and mostly on the bike trail. But I would like to set it up for anything I could throw at it, you never know about the future!
@bikemig and @Salamandrine Yeah I did find these Carridice Kendals that I really like, but they only have those for the rear. Why no matching front ones, or trunk/rackbag? I think it would look worse to have a mishmash of style rather than just go all modern perhaps. And Salamandrine, not worried about nylon, that's fine, its the design and color that bugs me. Just simple earth tones is what I'm after, and preferably not black but I might just have to give in if I want a fully matched set. My bike might not be an ornate classic, but it is 30 years old I don't really want it to sport something that looks very modern, want somewhat of an old time look to it, or at least subtle or plain styling.
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I love the Cannondale Panniers and bags- I've found a new set of rear Cannondale Overlands for $40. I also found a set of Overlands, a matching Cannondale Trestle handlebar bag and the Caboose trunk bag for $50. That was an outlier- but it proves they're out there.






IMO, the Lone Peak panniers seem to be the closest descendant of the Cannondale Panniers.


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Originally Posted by T Stew
Yeah I did find these Carridice Kendals that I really like, but they only have those for the rear. Why no matching front ones, or trunk/rackbag? I think it would look worse to have a mishmash of style rather than just go all modern perhaps. And Salamandrine, not worried about nylon, that's fine, its the design and color that bugs me. Just simple earth tones is what I'm after, and preferably not black but I might just have to give in if I want a fully matched set. My bike might not be an ornate classic, but it is 30 years old I don't really want it to sport something that looks very modern, want somewhat of an old time look to it, or at least subtle or plain styling.
RE fronts: I think the idea is that you use the same bags front and rear. They are small enough if you compare the size to typical front panniers. RE the trunk bag, the brits are more into large saddlebags, which they do sell in matching waxed canvas.

Nylon can look classy if you pick some with a simple design. Back in 85 nylon was all that was used. Almost always they were orange, red or black. Eclipse was considered the best.
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky
Keep your eyes open for some vintage Cannondales, Kirtlands, or Nashbars.
+1, used is a great way to go. There are a lot of people that bought panniers for one trip and haven't used them since. You can get them at a great discount from new, Ortliebs being an exception. Waterproof is great, but you can get very lightweight drysacks to keep your clothes and such dry and organized inside of the bags. Large zip lock bags work well for this for the budget conscious.
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine
RE fronts: I think the idea is that you use the same bags front and rear. They are small enough if you compare the size to typical front panniers. RE the trunk bag, the brits are more into large saddlebags, which they do sell in matching waxed canvas.
Ahh yes I see now that the Kendal are designed for both front and back. I really like what I am reading about them, hand made in UK too, I'll promote hand made first-world made stuff as much as possible. A lot of all my camping gear is small cottage industry stuff made here in US (tent, sleeping bag, alcohol stove, shoes, etc). And I also like the idea of more 'green' materials compared to synthetics. Price isn't to bad either, two sets (4) plus matching large Camper longflap saddlebag is £ 285.00 which google is saying is $407. Right from their own site, and that is before VAT is taken out (but not including shipping). Not to bad for 5 pieces. Maybe not as waterproof as a rolltop but I won't be doing any cross country all weather treks likely, and I wont mind wrapping stuff in a trash bag for extra waterproofness if I need to.

Edited to add: Also found them all on SJS for total including shipping ($63 yikes!) for $347, not bad at all!

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I buy cheap stuff too often and regret it. Ortlieb panniers are an investment that will start paying off right away, because not only are they durable, the attachment mechanism is brilliant, and it saves time and trouble. You can consider them economical even though they are more expensive than many other brands.
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Originally Posted by gugie
+1, used is a great way to go. There are a lot of people that bought panniers for one trip and haven't used them since. You can get them at a great discount from new, Ortliebs being an exception. Waterproof is great, but you can get very lightweight drysacks to keep your clothes and such dry and organized inside of the bags. Large zip lock bags work well for this for the budget conscious.
I concur and even if the bags have a few tears. These older fabric type not only have the vintage appeal, they weigh far less then newer rubberized type. I use the drysacks and baggies. The older Cannondales are great and have good internal framing.
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Panniers and racks are an area where I have no interest in going classic. Modern fasteners and materials make for more secure and lighter equipment. I like the look of modern bags on a classic diamond frame though.

For light touring, perhaps a saddle bag would be best? 15L of space is more than enough for me to pack for an overnight b&b/hotel/cabin trip. This would eliminate the need for a rack and you could just attach a Bagman Support for stability and weight.


Saddlebags-
Zimbale 16L Saddlebag - 16L Zimbale saddle bag
Medium Canvas Saddle Bag | Banjo Brothers - 10L Minnehaha saddle bag
https://www.carradice.co.uk/index.ph...&product_id=35 - 24L Carradice
https://www.carradice.co.uk/index.ph...&product_id=33 -23L Carradice
https://www.carradice.co.uk/index.ph...&product_id=38 - 15L Carradice
https://www.carradice.co.uk/index.ph...&product_id=37 - 18L Carradice
Design Your Own Large Saddle Bag -11L Dill Pickle. Tons of colors.



But if you really want some older looking natural material panniers...

Panniers that are canvas-
https://www.duluthpack.com/travel/bi...-bike-bag.html - come in a lot of colors.
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I concur and even if the bags have a few tears. These older fabric type not only have the vintage appeal, they weigh far less then newer rubberized type. I use the drysacks and baggies. The older Cannondales are great and have good internal framing.
+1 the rubber Ortlieb things don't really appeal to me either. At least for my use, a tiny bit leaky is better. I'd actually prefer water resistant bags to waterproof rubberized bags. A drysack for clothes and maybe another one for electronics etc is enough. The plastic bar mounting system looks a little suspicious as well.

Just looking so far, but the cool thing about the Kendals is that they have a modern mount system (with aluminum rails!) and are pretty modern in design, despite the fact that they are canvas instead of nylon. Having camped in the UK, I'd wager Carradice knows a thing or two about designing bags for rainy conditions...
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Panniers and racks are an area where I have no interest in going classic. Modern fasteners and materials make for more secure and lighter equipment. I like the look of modern bags on a classic diamond frame though.

For light touring, perhaps a saddle bag would be best? 15L of space is more than enough for me to pack for an overnight b&b/hotel/cabin trip. This would eliminate the need for a rack and you could just attach a Bagman Support for stability and weight.
Already have racks (not installed yet). And I went heavy duty (stainless steel Tubus ones).
15L well I might be able to fit most of my camera gear in that, lol. Certainly couldn't fit a load from the grocery store in there, though I'm debating getting a separate set for grocery duty.
Some of the ones I was looking at, like the aforementioned Carradice Kendal, do have quite modern attachments.

Truth is I have no idea what I am going to do touring-wise, I guess I am just preparing for anything. I'd love to do full-blown cross country touring but wouldn't have that kind of time in the foreseeable future. But I love camping out, I do multi-day backpacking trips into the mountains, etc, so I am just going to try working in some multi-day bike trips in there too. I have pretty lightweight gear for my hiking trips, but then again I like to lug along photo gear (dslr, multiple lenses, good tripod, etc) and sometimes ham radio equipment though I haven't used the radio in many years really. I'd also just like to be able to haul groceries or other supplies from stores (nothing is close by here mind you, I'm in very rural area so a trip to the store maybe 10 to 30 or more miles).
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That's what I've found:
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Those look retro however I'm not sure if it is what you are looking for. I really like the style of those and they come in two colors too! However I'm looking for touring pannier and I don't think those would handle harsh conditions. Also 27l might be ok for everyday commuting, but on 2 weeks trip I'd prefer more space on the rear.
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Also I'm thinking it might be good to pay extra for some sort of top quality pannier and use it for all (commuting/groceries/touring) then to buy separate sets of touring and ever day panniers sacrificing quality on both.
On the other hand those New Looxs are relatively cheap at about 50$ piece. They also come as double rear panniers.
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I had the same criteria when I was looking for panniers for my Nishiki Cresta. I ended up going with the Ortlieb Front Roller Plus in Hazel. The material looks like canvas and really works with vintage bikes. The bike as shown is fully loaded for a short tour where supplies can be purchased on the road. If I was to go on a longer trip away from re-supply I'd add the same panniers up front for food and water. In 1985, this bike was fully outfitted with Red Cannodale panniers just like @The Golden Boy. That set is long gone sadly.

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I guess I really scored -- $15 for a bright yellow rear rack set on Rudy Project panniers at a yard sale. Although they lift easily off of my Pletscher mousetrap rack, I tend to leave them on the UO-8 at all times. These were a major game-changer for grocery shopping.
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Looks great @Saguaro I thought the Hazel colored Orts would look decent on vintage steel. That is all I am really after is simple earth-tones. With thousands of bags out there why is this so hard a thing lol. Well the place I thought I could get the Orts was teasing me, that model which appears to be left over 2014 shown in hazel but only available in graphite.

Anyhow I am getting sick of staring at hundreds and hundreds of bags, so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on Carradice. I think they look great, though perhaps not a perfect match with my greenish frame but we'll see how they look when they get here. I went ahead and got a full matched set, priced seemed so much better than anywhere else from SJS.
Carradice Kendal Panniers - 2 pairs
Carradice Camper Longflap Saddlebag 24l
Carradice Zipped Roll Bag (when I don't want the big bag but want something small for tools, spare tube, etc.

While I was there they also had the best prices I've seen on Brooks saddles and I ordered two (one was a seconds).

Without the Brooks, the full 6 piece bag set was well under $400 including s/h. Not department store cheap but for handmade quality stuff seems pretty inexpensive to me, and with modern latching systems. About HALF the price of bikebagshop! Can't wait! Thanks for all the advice everyone!

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I have some vintage Karimoor panniers I could let go of.


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