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Old 03-12-16, 11:11 PM
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85 620 with 27x1 1/4" Gatorskins
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
I finished my 1982 Trek 614 last night.

It's looking cool!

You should start a thread with all the details!!
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
I finished my 1982 Trek 614 last night.

I'll second what @The Golden Boy said. That bike is great looking.
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I have three bikes with 27" tires. The first one is an early Nishiki Olympic with Gatorskins. Despite the tires, this bike rides very smoothly.


Next is Old Peugeot # 2, which has Paselas. When I bought it, it was running on Vittoria Zaffiro tires, and those were pretty harsh. The Paselas are a big improvement. I should add that the pic below shows the bike right when I bought it. The rear derailleur had caught in the spokes and had exploded. So I replaced the crank and rear derailleur with good old French parts, rebuilt the wheel, and put on Suntour Barcons.



Finally, I have a small Trek 620 from 1980 or so. I keep this handy for any guests who need a smaller bike. It has the stock Rigida alu rims and Gatorbacks.



As as you can see, I am a fan of the old Spécialités TA crank. The one on the Nishiki, though, is a Sugino triple made to the 50.4 bolt pattern!
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[IMG]1972 Bottecchia Giro D'italia 60cm , on Flickr[/IMG]
Currently being stripped after a year of hanging on the wall, garage wall!

[IMG]1994 Burley Duet in the raw, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Most 27s have been re-sells with steelies more common than alloy. But it was this araya 40h rear 36h front 27s stock on the 85 T700 that really caught my attention. Having never seen real deal 80s sealed bearings (sansin hubs), I went to service these a few months ago to only be educated that yes indeed sealed bearing were out mid 80s. What really is respectable is the fact these still spin buttery smooth and with the 40 rear hub/rim almost bombproof for touring or any other application. If you see these around they are well worth grabbing since 27in seemed to be off most radars.

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Bunch of very nice bikes here. Ain't nuthin' wrong with 27" wheels.

My two:

UO-8. It now carries a Sugino Maxy crank again, an upgrade I did decades ago. And it no longer carries the rack, lights or bag.


Raleigh Gran Sport, which now sports fender and lights for commuting on rainy days.
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Rotrax Supercourse

Here is my 1951 Rotrax Supercourse with 27" wheels:




I bought the bike off Hilary Stone and made a few modifications including rebuilding the wheels (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post18612640).

Unusually, the bike came with rather rare 27 1" tires but they were falling apart. I replaced them with Schwalbe 27 1 1/4" tires.
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Its been a discussion in another thread, but i had to include it here. To be honest i was thinking about converting it to 700c but after reading this thread, I think i will keep it at 27"

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Wheels are stock Rigida Rims with Sunshine hubs tires and Continental Gatorskins (although not sure of the size)
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My Trek 720 has 27" wheels:

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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
My Trek 720 has 27" wheels:

John, did you build this frame too?
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This is a beautiful bike. Perhaps a thread of its own to share some more photos and build details?

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by realsteel
Here is my 1951 Rotrax Supercourse with 27" wheels:


I bought the bike off Hilary Stone and made a few modifications including rebuilding the wheels (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post18612640).

Unusually, the bike came with rather rare 27 1" tires but they were falling apart. I replaced them with Schwalbe 27 1 1/4" tires.
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Originally Posted by realsteel
Here is my 1951 Rotrax Supercourse with 27" wheels:



That is an elegant bike.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
It's looking cool!

You should start a thread with all the details!!
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I'll second what @The Golden Boy said. That bike is great looking.
At your encouragement, I did start a thread on this if you want to see the details.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...614-build.html
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
At your encouragement, I did start a thread on this if you want to see the details.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...614-build.html
Thank you!
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Rotrax Supercourse

Thanks SJX426, Stevensb, The Golden Boy and Andy_K for the kind words!

More about the bike. It's a 1951 Rotrax Supercourse that I bought as a complete bike from Hilary Stone. Hilary has a nice article on Rotrax (Rotrax).

The frame is remarkable in its attention to detail: it has braze-ons for both derailleur and rear brake cabling (not bad for 1951). Even the pump pegs have elegant little bands.

I'm not sure who did the renovation of the frame but it's the best I've ever seen: flam blue and red with perfect box and lug lining (if anyone knows who it might be, then let me know).

The bike took about two months to properly set up. The front Airlite hub had a hairline crack in it, so I replaced that and used the opportunity to relace both wheels with nipple and spoke washers. The GB 531 stem with which it came also had a crack in it (which I can repair), so I replaced it with a GB Hiduminium stem.

In trying to straighten the chainset, I managed to crack the spider (idiot), it is a TA spider milled from billet aluminium alloy. Fortunately I managed to repair it using HTS-2000 brazing rods which work rather well and it's probably stronger than it was before.

The equipment list is as follows:
- 1951 Rotrax Supercourse frame in flam blue and red
- 32/40 hole Airlite hubs and Fiamme yellow label clincher rims
- GB Courier brakes and Superhood levers
- GB Hiduminium stem and Reynolds Bailey bars with a chevron ferrule
- A Rotrax headset (I didn't even know these existed)
- mid-50's Campagnolo Gran Sport derailleurs
- Stronglight cranks, TA spider, Williams chainrings (it's a great combination!)
- Sheffield Sprint 673 pedals
- Bluemels Tour de France shortie mudguards
- Middlemores saddle and Reynolds seat post
and (to my shame)
- Shimano Uniglide freewheel and chain

The handlebar tape is cotton and has been shellacked, the cabling, tires and toeclips are modern. It's not perfectly period-correct, but it's fairly close.

Here is another picture of the drive train:


Needless to say, it rides beautifully, but I only take it out in fine weather.
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Here is my 1971-ish Raleigh Super Course. Nothing is original on the bike except for the headset, but it does have 27" wheels.

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Originally Posted by SJX426
John, did you build this frame too?
Yes, that's actually the second frame I ever built (and it shows when you get close enough).
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Originally Posted by realsteel
Here is my 1951 Rotrax Supercourse with 27" wheels:
Unusually, the bike came with rather rare 27 1" tires but they were falling apart. I replaced them with Schwalbe 27 1 1/4" tires.
I think I have a set of 27x1 tires. Probably nothing special (Panaracer?) but you can have them for shipping if you want them. Pretty sure they are tan wall so the look will be the same.
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'84 Schwinn Tempo. My "wish I hadn't sold it" bike.
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Originally Posted by Iowegian
I think I have a set of 27x1 tires. Probably nothing special (Panaracer?) but you can have them for shipping if you want them. Pretty sure they are tan wall so the look will be the same.
Thanks for the offer! However, I looked up tires in the 1939, 1952 and 1956 Brown Brothers Cycle Catalogue (oldroads.com - Vintage Bicycle Reference), which is the bible of vintage bike equipment, and there is no reference to 27 1" tires: they must be a later development. The narrowest is 27 1 1/4". The bike tires as they are, are closer to being period-correct.
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