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Old 04-03-16, 09:50 PM
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Bianchi Saetta Photos



Photos of the Saetta I've been working on. Still some details to work out and a few things that could be improved, but here it is. Also is a "before" picture and a picture of the original owner back in the early '40s.
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Fantastic!

I'm told the Bianchi oiler is its own unique thread compared to other oilers and rare as hen's teeth. I know a guy who my have something if you are interested.
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That's about the coolest bike I have seen in a while. What gearing system is the that?
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It is a gen 2 Vittoria Margherita. All the rage by 1936. Won the Giro multiple times and the 1938 TdF, the second year derailleurs were allowed.
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Wow...very cool...thanks for sharing the pictures...
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Arcane and awesome!
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That's the raddest thing I've seen in a while. I would love to try that shifting!
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Lots of hens teeth in this process. Yes please, any info you have is greatly appreciated. The oiler was my next fabrication project.
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You might think so....
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How many generations were there?

I know the first generation did not have the twist and flappers, and I've seen last generation with the flappers below the chainstay. There seem to be variations like "campione del mondo", Tour De France" etc., but I can't tell much difference. I did notice that the tab on the back of the ratchet does change location on some.
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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
That's about the coolest bike I have seen in a while. What gearing system is the that?
Vittoria Margherita
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Lovely bike!

Is the pivot for the tensioner arm a frame-welded component, or is it strapped on to the chainstay - can't tell from the pics?
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Why did you replace the clincher rims which could quite likely have been original for wood tubulars? Here is my 1941 Bianchi, it has the braze-on for the fitting of the Vittoria Margherita shifter.
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Thanks for posting. Those old transmission evolutionary dead ends are fascinating, and it's hard not to love any vintage Bianchi frame.
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Originally Posted by lenos View Post
How many generations were there?

I know the first generation did not have the twist and flappers, and I've seen last generation with the flappers below the chainstay. There seem to be variations like "campione del mondo", Tour De France" etc., but I can't tell much difference. I did notice that the tab on the back of the ratchet does change location on some.
Gen 3 (technically a Cervino) had the flappers below the chainstay so you didn't have to pedal backwards to change gears and a spring-loaded tension arm instead of the manual.
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Originally Posted by ldmataya View Post
Lovely bike!

Is the pivot for the tensioner arm a frame-welded component, or is it strapped on to the chainstay - can't tell from the pics?
This one has a small tab on the bottom of the chainstay, to which and pivot bracket bolts.
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Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde View Post
Why did you replace the clincher rims which could quite likely have been original for wood tubulars? Here is my 1941 Bianchi, it has the braze-on for the fitting of the Vittoria Margherita shifter.
Three reasons. The 1939 Bianchi catalog lists "cerchi in legno" (Wooden rims) for the Saetta. The daughter of the original owner of the bike recalls him talking about wooden rims. The clinchers rims it had looked more to be something from the early '50s, wide, chrome steel. I saved them, just in case.

Molto bello bici btw. Want to trade brakes?
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Fantastic!

I'm told the Bianchi oiler is its own unique thread compared to other oilers and rare as hen's teeth. I know a guy who my have something if you are interested.
Yeah, it's 7 mm x 1, not the most common thread around but McMaster-Carr has the taps. (What don't they have?) I'm curious to know what the the inside end of the copper tube looks like, otherwise I'm just imagining. I've got some plumbing from an automotive oil pressure gauge that might do the trick with a fabricated "nut". Of course if you know someone who has something I would sure be interested to learn more.
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Sent an email to guy I know in Italy. We shall see.

This is my oiler.

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Want to trade brakes?
I have some Universal Mod39 calipers. They are on a bike but I'm open to trade.
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Sent an email to guy I know in Italy. We shall see.
Sorry, no joy.
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I have some Universal Mod39 calipers. They are on a bike but I'm open to trade.
Thanks for the offer. I have Model 39 calipers and levers on it at the moment. In the photo of the bike back in the 30's it appears to have calipers that have the 90 degree brake anchor like the model 35 and same-era Balilla, so I've been looking for one of those setups with no luck. In the photos of Citoyen du monde's Folgore it appears to have model 35s. My thinking was that the Fologre, which I believe was introduced in 1940, would be more likely to have model '39s. If you ever run across a Model 39 or Balilla setup please let me know. I have very little information on the specifics of the Balilla.
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Sorry, no joy.
Thanks for trying. I better fire up the lathe. What is the wrench size on the oiler "nut" My guess is 8mm based on the photo but that makes the walls pretty thin with a 7mm thread.

Thanks again for all your kind advice. Next major project will be a Folgorissima.
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I have owned both a 1940 and 1941 Folgore and they both had the right angle in the arm, mod 35. In both cases the brakes were with the bike when I found them so I rather doubt that they were later substitutions.
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