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Old 04-12-16, 01:34 PM
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OT: Impossible bike design

Some of these look vintage enough. Interesting concepts:

A designer reveals the improbable bikes designed by his friends | Ufunk.net
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Old 04-12-16, 02:03 PM
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Wow. There are people in France who have never actually looked at a bicycle?

I seem to remember a really crazy bicycle drawing in one of Doctor Seuss's books, maybe the Cat in the Hat.
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they remind me of teleportation gone wrong (ie, 'the fly' films).
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I always knew that chainstays were superfluous
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some he sure gave the benefit of the doubt and made something almost ride-able out of. thanks for posting this, very cool.

I like this last one: looks cool;

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Old 04-12-16, 03:02 PM
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some he sure gave the benefit of the doubt and made something almost ride-able out of.
Except the eighth one down. The steering is totally different between the sketch and the render, and the sketch version would be borderline usable (assuming the "head tube" region was beefy and long enough to hold a steering setup of some kind).

Edit: Ah, I just realized that the steering wasn't actually switched to rigid, it just looked that way because of the crazy stem.

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Old 04-12-16, 03:17 PM
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I really enjoyed seeing this. Bikes get mangled by artists constantly. They're hard to draw even with reference.
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These are great. I'd say 90% of people couldn't accurately draw a bicycle, despite knowing how one is supposed to work.
I had a similar idea a while ago, to bring to life the painted cycles on cycle lanes to highlight their utter inaccuracy. It always amazes me that there isn't a universal template used by the local authorities. Some of them are downright hilarious efforts.
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Steering is vastly overrated, apparently.
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Some of 'em look like they might actually work. Sort of...

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Velocipedia is a funny project of Gianluca Gimini, an Italian designer who for three years now is asking his friends to draw bikes, that he then renders in 3D.

-- so when they are rendered in "3D", does that mean he's building a real model? Are those actual photos and/or computer-generated images?
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some he sure gave the benefit of the doubt and made something almost ride-able out of. thanks for posting this, very cool.

I like this last one: looks cool;


Funny thing is, that front wheel bike would "work" assuming you had perfect balance and didn't try to turn. The chain would sag on top, but that's nothing new for a SS (except it usually sags on the bottom under load.)
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This article reminds me of the road.cc article that appeared a couple of years ago when a cognitive psychologist asked non-cyclists and cyclists to draw a bicycle and published the results.

Hilarious.

The Science of Cycology: can you draw a bicycle? | road.cc, August 25, 2013
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Originally Posted by Scooper View Post
This article reminds me of the road.cc article that appeared a couple of years ago when a cognitive psychologist asked non-cyclists and cyclists to draw a bicycle and published the results.

Hilarious.

The Science of Cycology: can you draw a bicycle? | road.cc, August 25, 2013
That's hilarious. I'm surprised that even the cyclists made mistakes...

And how does the person conducting the test know that the people he tested weren't just really weird framebuilders?
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...And how does the person conducting the test know that the people he tested weren't just really weird framebuilders?
From the statistics she cites in the article, it sounds like she conducted fairly comprehensive interviews.

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In 2002, Leonid Rozenblit and Frank Keil argued that, in particular, we overestimate our ability to explain how things work - whether artefacts like greenhouses and bicycles, or natural phenomena like tides and rainbows. They suggested that this illusion of explanatory depth is especially severe for objects with visible parts. Rozenblit and Keil's conclusions were based only on people's self-ratings of the quality of their explanations. I wanted to extend their work to measure how accurate people's explanations really are, to see how well people understand how everyday objects work. The bicycle is an obvious choice to test this.

Firstly, bicycles are familiar objects even for non-cyclists. I have given the test to over 200 students and parents coming to Open Days at the University. Over 96% had learnt to cycle as children with a further 1.5% learning as adults and less than 3% never having learned. Also 52% of this group owned a bicycle. Sadly, the figures on actual cycling were low, with just 1% cycling most days, 4% cycling around once a week and 9% cycling about once a month. The vast majority either never cycle (52%) or rarely do so (33%). Nevertheless, even for these non-cyclists, bicycles are a common sight. Secondly, if Rozenblit and Keil are correct, people should greatly over-estimate their understanding of how bicycles work because bicycle parts are visible and they seem to be simple, mechanical devices.
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From the statistics she cites in the article, it sounds like she conducted fairly comprehensive interviews.
Oh fine. Ruin my fun.

These sorts of tests are fun though. Sort of like trying to name the colors in the google logo. You probably see it everyday, but most people can't put the colors in the right order.
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You have to draw a bicycle to get into RISD.
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"Improbable Bike Design" reminds me of "the Gallery of Regrettable Food."
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So much hilarity and awesomeness. Thanks for brightening my morning.
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the rendering is fantastic.....it makes you think this craziness might work...... next we need a C&V draw a bike thread
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Funny thing is, that front wheel bike would "work" assuming you had perfect balance and didn't try to turn. The chain would sag on top, but that's nothing new for a SS (except it usually sags on the bottom under load.)
Just don't assume the designer knows which way to pedal.
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I hear someone in the background saying "Made you look!"
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Fun stuff. I'm impressed by how many designs he added brakes to - such a nicety. I figured they were all drawn as fixies.
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These remind me of some of those old English frames.
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