How do you say "Tange"?
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How do you say "Tange"?
I was at a shop; guy has been in business 40 years. We got to chatting about a bike with Tange Prestiage tubes. He said "tann-geee". I pronounce it like the drink mix "Tang".
What is the deal here? (no i wont bring up "mavic").
What is the deal here? (no i wont bring up "mavic").
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More and more repetition. I guess a good part of North America doesn't have google or bing.
https://www.bikeforums.net/singlespee...nce-tange.html
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It's Japanese so it's going to be two syllables, but it's definitely not clear from English spelling what the last vowel is supposed to be or which syllable gets the emphasis.
I sort of feel that referring to an old thread doesn't help since there's no way to tell what experience the authors speak from unless you know them. I asked about "Porsche" once at an auto show - since it had come up as an example in my German class in high school - and the old guy from Germany said "You relax on your porsh but you drive a Por-sche." That guy, I'll believe.
My boss has a name that clearly used to have an u-umlaut and now has a ue, but he pronounces it with an ee noise and not an ue noise as he spells it, and he's correcting people all the time. He says, "I know how to pronounce my own name. You don't get to tell me I'm wrong."
So I guess I'm looking for someone to say "That's how Mr. Tange pronounced it."
I sort of feel that referring to an old thread doesn't help since there's no way to tell what experience the authors speak from unless you know them. I asked about "Porsche" once at an auto show - since it had come up as an example in my German class in high school - and the old guy from Germany said "You relax on your porsh but you drive a Por-sche." That guy, I'll believe.
My boss has a name that clearly used to have an u-umlaut and now has a ue, but he pronounces it with an ee noise and not an ue noise as he spells it, and he's correcting people all the time. He says, "I know how to pronounce my own name. You don't get to tell me I'm wrong."
So I guess I'm looking for someone to say "That's how Mr. Tange pronounced it."
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T-ange, like "Ange" short for Angela.
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And we have our first definitely wrong response for the thread...
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That's ok, we need to discuss this again.
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I say tanj.
I know its wrong but im american and we say everything wrong.
Example.
First settlers to the native americans.
Settlers: "are you indians?"
NA: "no."
Settlers: "are you sure?"
NA: "yes."
Settlers: Naaah!, you're indians
I know its wrong but im american and we say everything wrong.
Example.
First settlers to the native americans.
Settlers: "are you indians?"
NA: "no."
Settlers: "are you sure?"
NA: "yes."
Settlers: Naaah!, you're indians
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Depends on if yer wearin' lycra or cotton I suppose?
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+3... the trick is not stressing any particular syllable, as the Japanese would do.
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its pronounced "tange".
geez..
but yeah, if you consider the japanese pronunciation to be the correct one- then its little to no emphasis and every syllable just as it looks. in Japanese the sounds would be ta-n-ge (たんげ) each one given the same time and emphasis - and the n having a bit of "m" in it. g is hard, and a and e are the short forms.
that said, I think it is a family name. which means its probably "tan" "ge" as two separate symbols which might lead to some emphasis - but not so much as to change the word unless you have a very good ear... but I am not japanese enough to know. (though I do speak it ok)
geez..
but yeah, if you consider the japanese pronunciation to be the correct one- then its little to no emphasis and every syllable just as it looks. in Japanese the sounds would be ta-n-ge (たんげ) each one given the same time and emphasis - and the n having a bit of "m" in it. g is hard, and a and e are the short forms.
that said, I think it is a family name. which means its probably "tan" "ge" as two separate symbols which might lead to some emphasis - but not so much as to change the word unless you have a very good ear... but I am not japanese enough to know. (though I do speak it ok)
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I say it like the terrible drink- Tang.
I also know its not correct, but I have seen it written phonetically and dont even come close to understanding it when I say it in my head.
'Tan - G'
'Taaan - ghey'
Heard both of those ways before. No idea whats actually correct.
I also know its not correct, but I have seen it written phonetically and dont even come close to understanding it when I say it in my head.
'Tan - G'
'Taaan - ghey'
Heard both of those ways before. No idea whats actually correct.
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There are all sorts of 'non-standard' pronunciations in the cycling world; Giant is pronounced 'gee-ANT', Dura-Ace is pronounced "dur-ah-CHEE', and Ciocc....well, lets just see how many can get that one correct! For a while, I was trying to get people in my local club to start pronouncing Cannondale 'cahn-on-DAHL-ay", but it just didn't catch on....
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Tell us how they pronounce it.
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More and more repetition. I guess a good part of North America doesn't have google or bing.
https://www.bikeforums.net/singlespee...nce-tange.html
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OK, and the "Dia"?
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