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Simplex Joy gear changer 573(2) 1950's

Old 04-19-16, 10:55 AM
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Simplex Joy gear changer 573(2) 1950's



I am searching for a gear changer like the one pictured to complete a Bertin. Does any one have one kicking around?

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Old 04-19-16, 05:32 PM
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A suggestion From a learned lister corrected me this is the #543 model
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Old 04-19-16, 07:51 PM
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Correction..... it's spelled "Juy", not "Joy".......
What it means, I never found out....yet....
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Lucien Juy was the founder of Simplex. The French Tullio Campagnolo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucien_Juy

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Originally Posted by madscrambler View Post


I am searching for a gear changer like the one pictured to complete a Bertin. Does any one have one kicking around?

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Please, big pretty please - post pictures of your Bertin when finished or unfinished.
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Old 04-19-16, 09:44 PM
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Apparently they can be quite pricey: RARE Derailleur SIMPLEX JUYRECORD 60 old french vintage bike no 543 juy

This one is a bargain by comparison : New Simplex JUY 543 in The Original Bag Vintage Bicycle Rear Derailleur | eBay

Simplex Juy 543 - instructions: Simplex Juy 543 - instructions
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Jeez, that is high dollar. I had an old simplex come with a box of parts, made me get up and go to the garage, haha. Too bad, it's not that one. Looks 30s or 40s with center chain. Dang it..
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Nothing like needing a $1k part to finish off a bike...
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You might want to contact Adrian at The Flying Wheel here. He has some earlier Simplexes and may be able to help. As mongol777 requested, please post photos.
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Awww...just whack off the hanger and put a clawed Suntour on it.

Lots cheaper ! ;>
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Ha suntour is what I am running now! Yes bummer to have such an expensive part to complete a bike. I will take some photos this weekend. Thanks all for ur interest.
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Ha suntour is what I am running now! Yes bummer to have such an expensive part to complete a bike. I will take some photos this weekend. Thanks all for ur interest.
It's a bummer but that part will make the bike that much cooler and valuable. I would just find the right part at a fair price and negotiate if you can.
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Calling @jjhabbs. If I recall correctly, he had one or two of these....
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Hi. Yes. I had three. I sold them all. Extremely rare. I sold a user grade one for 650 and one in an original box for 1000. I wish you luck
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I bought the one from the guy in Portuago on e-bay we will see how that goes! Ouch��
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Old 04-21-16, 09:46 AM
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II dug up some picture of my bike when it was I the coop where I found it. It has been cleaned and greased since then. I road it I the first Eroica event. I have not change a thing except the seat.
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Cant forget the stoppers!
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Ok I hope the picture attaches
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The front derailleur has a very imaginative cable attachment!
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The front derailleur has a very imaginative cable attachment!
it may have been more like this
https://www.flickr.com/photos/493535...12178/sizes/o/

but the pulley/guide may have been a bit crowded.
It would be interesting to see what shifters are on it, and where. What braze-on are on the non-drive side, and if there is any evidence of cable routing underneath the bottom bracket to pull the cable for the FD.
I have the same model FD Huret derailleur to go onto a 1952 EA Boult. It also has the pulley wheel, but the original owner said he routed the cable under the bottom bracket so it was more effective, leaving the pulley guide for the rear derailleur cable. The FD was operated by a Cyclo bar end changer (which I am currently looking for ).
need more pictures on a thread dedicated to the project!
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II dug up some picture of my bike when it was I the coop where I found it. It has been cleaned and greased since then. I road it I the first Eroica event. I have not change a thing except the seat.
Thank you! I have unexplained love for Bertins. Can you repost full bike picture - for some reason can't see big version
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Try to just click once perhaps then the pictures will expand. They were reduced resolution photos when I started because the tool for attaching files seems to fail when you try to attach fuller resolution shots.
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Try to just click once perhaps then the pictures will expand. They were reduced resolution photos when I started because the tool for attaching files seems to fail when you try to attach fuller resolution shots.
first 3 are opening fine but driveside view is unclickable.
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Maybe this will open
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There is a club in Japan for cyclists who own a machine fitted with this mech. They gather once a year for a group ride. IIRC it takes place in the vicinity of Mount Fuji (but don't quote me! ).
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