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Old 04-21-16, 04:36 PM
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Classic steel with black components?

Anyone have any classic steel bikes they've put black colored components on? Want to see if it can look nice, and how to make it look nice if so.
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It was Fuji's version of a Black Lightning.

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Look at the most recent 5-6 pages of this thread.

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I think it helps if there are some black aspects to the frame--decals/font, panels, etc. Here's an example of a variety of black anodized bits on a classic polished titanium frame (looks like chrome; hard to go wrong with chrome).



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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
I think it helps if there are some black aspects to the frame--decals/font, panels, etc. Here's an example of a variety of black anodized bits on a classic polished titanium frame (looks like chrome; hard to go wrong with chrome).



That's a nice one. They go well with that frame.

Black parts were somewhat unusual but not at all unheard of during the friction shift era, especially the last bit of the early to mid 80s. There were some around in the 70s too, Dura Ace for example. More common were partly black parts like 1st gen Cyclone derailleurs. Also common in black were various chainrings, the occasional 3ttt stem, Modolo brakes. Some Galli and Gippiemme components.

While sure you could slam some modern black parts onto a vintage frame, IMO it's going to look better if you show some restraint and put some vintage or vintage-y black and mostly black stuff on there in an artful mixture.
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Some black, still need to build wheels with the large flange DA black hubs I have and find a front DA black brake to match rear. 76'' MKM w/DA decal on seat tube.



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1979 Trek 530 sporting Black Dura Ace. A gave it to a friend so he would quit bugging me to sell it to him. Came original from Trek factory with black components.
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Black Shimano 105 (5800) group on my Trek:



Brakes are Tektro 539, also black.

Hubs are silver - the black rim / hub combo I wanted was out of stock in 32 spoke at the time.
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Matchy-Matchy black on red 1992 Paramount OS with black components:



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Since you asked...

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I hope these kind of answer your question. Pics when you're done!
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Mid 80's C-Dale

Red - Black - Silver:



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Originally Posted by Vinnems View Post
Anyone have any classic steel bikes they've put black colored components on? Want to see if it can look nice, and how to make it look nice if so.
In my opinion, no matter which color component group you use you have to make it look like it was done on purpose. For me, the seatpost and stem have to match the crankset for example. Either all 3 silver, or all 3 black.

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@oddjob2 Here is my version of the Fuji Ace.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
I hope these kind of answer your question. Pics when you're done!
I just don't know, Robbie.
Here's my dilemma. I wanted to own three bikes: one Italian (and some French...), one Japanese, and on American. Brand new steel frames with brand new components. The Italian was easy, I bought Athena 11s in silver. The Japanese was easy, I bought Shimano 105 in silver. But the American bike, I don't know. SRAM only offers things in black, and I'm just not feeling it with steel frames. It looks OK on the black, white, and silver frames, but those are neutral colors... I don't know, I think black makes me think of carbon, even when its just aluminum pieces painting black, and that just looks good on the modern designed carbon bikes with the sloping top tubes and wider 'tubes'.
Not knocking carbon or anyone's choices in designs.
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how about century grey? Frame and parts long long gone, but it was a good looking bike, I thought.

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I just don't know, Robbie.
Here's my dilemma. I wanted to own three bikes: one Italian (and some French...), one Japanese, and on American. Brand new steel frames with brand new components. The Italian was easy, I bought Athena 11s in silver. The Japanese was easy, I bought Shimano 105 in silver. But the American bike, I don't know. SRAM only offers things in black, and I'm just not feeling it with steel frames. It looks OK on the black, white, and silver frames, but those are neutral colors... I don't know, I think black makes me think of carbon, even when its just aluminum pieces painting black, and that just looks good on the modern designed carbon bikes with the sloping top tubes and wider 'tubes'.
Not knocking carbon or anyone's choices in designs.

Photos of the American frame?
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That is certainly no accident.
I wouldn't be able to ride your wheel, I'd be too busy looking at the bike.

Originally Posted by ratfink76 View Post
In my opinion, no matter which color component group you use you have to make it look like it was done on purpose. For me, the seatpost and stem have to match the crankset for example. Either all 3 silver, or all 3 black.

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I just don't know, Robbie.
Here's my dilemma. I wanted to own three bikes: one Italian (and some French...), one Japanese, and on American. Brand new steel frames with brand new components. The Italian was easy, I bought Athena 11s in silver. The Japanese was easy, I bought Shimano 105 in silver. But the American bike, I don't know. SRAM only offers things in black, and I'm just not feeling it with steel frames. It looks OK on the black, white, and silver frames, but those are neutral colors... I don't know, I think black makes me think of carbon, even when its just aluminum pieces painting black, and that just looks good on the modern designed carbon bikes with the sloping top tubes and wider 'tubes'.
Not knocking carbon or anyone's choices in designs.
I understand. What's not being said is that a lot of modern black stuff is, uh, "thick," so there's that issue for the eye to deal with. Also, you're 100% right on "nuetral colors" with black. There are many that just don't go as well together as the parts of a Reese's cup. You can look at a list of parts, and there is some relief by breaking up the continuous color with shiny small parts.

For example:
Bars-go silver, even with black wrap. The sleeve can make the difference.
Stem-If you go black, you still have the shiny gap between the stem and wrap.
Wrap-Try an different color finish wrap, and put some color on the plugs.
Seat post-Try a fluted design, and paint the flutes black, as well as the lower part of the cradle. This matches both black and polished schemes.
Crankset-Too much black? Try polished rings. Or an FSA version that breaks it up a bit with a logo.
Most SRAM stuff is pretty nice, and what's black is often at least polished, broken up by small spots of grey, or white, or red.
Pedals-try a contrasting pedal, like a shiny one or perhaps a Look in a color.
Little things can break up the color, like cable housing, a shiny bottle cage, saddle rails, a braking surface on a wheel.

Hope this helps. Given my druthers on an American steel bike, it's no secret I'd go with a Wraith. Battleship grey, black logos, and you can put all the black on it you want, you can hardly make it more of a bad-ass bike.
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That is certainly no accident.
I wouldn't be able to ride your wheel, I'd be too busy looking at the bike.
You made my day good sir!
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For me, the louder the paint, the better black components look.
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