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Old 05-08-16, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by repechage
I am going to be contrarian regarding some of the assembly details. While the paint and chrime touch up is very worthy of note. The only band clamps that a case can be made in my book to line with plastic or cloth tape would be at the waterbottle. Many have sharp edges. Elsewhere, I have observed more issues than benefits, some touched on by others. The superglue on fastener threads is another.
Overall the bike appears quite handsome.
Thanks for the compliment! I use superglue (as an alternative to Loctite) on threads which are not spring-loaded and subject to high vibrations - usually just a few nuts on the brakes and the pulley bolts. I've collected quite a few vintage brakes and most have mismatched nuts because they fell off at some point! Cyanoacrylate is not harmful to metal.
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
It looks great. Very dynamic colors. The front and rear chrome is spectacular. Could you tell me the length of the steel rear derailleur cable guide guide that you used? (Looks around 195mm).
Thanks! It is part number 617 in the 1973 Campagnolo catalogue (Catalog Archive) which makes it 21 cm.
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Originally Posted by Henry III
Here's another nit pick..beautiful bike but it's not in my shed and it's a little too big but I've got a torch and can fix that. Great build and how informational your thread is. Enjoy the fruits of your labor now. Your room in the pics is pretty impressive and your collection of parts.
Thanks! Holdsworth Pros do turn up on eBay now and again, so maybe you can find one in your size. Mine is slightly too large for me, so I used a shortish stem and moved the saddle forward, and it's perfectly comfortable.
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
+1! and I'll take a guess at the crop: mustard...being a European variety slightly different to the plant we see a LOT of in California where wild mustard grows like a weed (cause it is).

I really like the small touches like the blue bell, straps and water bottle (almost bought one of those but both my Holdsworths are the "wrong color", not Pros).

If you want to take it to the limit (over OVER the limit) there are: colored valve caps, anodized cable crimp caps, strap buttons (I would say those are very sensible) even alloy anodized spoke nipples (I would say the opposite of those) and lastly alloy pulleys for the RD, but these days the only color seems to be red so that's out, but in the '80s you could have found blue or orange. Still, some restraint might be called for as this sort of fussy customizing can spin out of control...don't ask me how I know!
I tried use components which would have been around in 1973. The valve caps are vintage and brass, the crimps are just plain aluminium, and I think '70s bike mechanics would have rolled their eyes at anodized spoke nipples! I am giving this helmet some serious consideration though:

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I'm not sure which I liked better. The bicycle, or your photography of the restoration. Either way, a beautiful bike and restoration.
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I've have enjoyed a 73 Holdsworth Super Mistral Fastback that was custom made for me in 1973, and did a less involved redo some years ago. I have enjoyed this thread as much as any ever on BF and think the job turned out to be totally amazing. I didn't think I'd like that cheap crank since the Record crank is in my mind about the most beautiful bike part of all time, but it looks damn good. I was also humored by the pics in the meadow since such gentility is at odds with the uncompromised sporting functionality of the Holdsworth Professional, but hey, we're all codgers already or at least headed that way.




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The bike looks clean enough to eat off.
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Originally Posted by realsteel
I tried use components which would have been around in 1973. The valve caps are vintage and brass, the crimps are just plain aluminium, and I think '70s bike mechanics would have rolled their eyes at anodized spoke nipples! I am giving this helmet some serious consideration though:

The bike is beautiful, the attention to detail is amazing.

Regarding the helmet... i just got the Specialized "airnet" I love the nod to vintage aesthetic and got the flat black version. Really it's a great fitting helmet for my head and that's why I bought it, but I get a kick out of the nod to the helmet's origin and I think it won't look terrible aboard my vintage steel.
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That helmet is $270 - yikes!

cheaper version

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Originally Posted by satbuilder
I'm not sure which I liked better. The bicycle, or your photography of the restoration. Either way, a beautiful bike and restoration.
Thanks: I appreciate the compliment! J.
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Originally Posted by sced
I've have enjoyed a 73 Holdsworth Super Mistral Fastback that was custom made for me in 1973, and did a less involved redo some years ago. I have enjoyed this thread as much as any ever on BF and think the job turned out to be totally amazing. I didn't think I'd like that cheap crank since the Record crank is in my mind about the most beautiful bike part of all time, but it looks damn good. I was also humored by the pics in the meadow since such gentility is at odds with the uncompromised sporting functionality of the Holdsworth Professional, but hey, we're all codgers already or at least headed that way.
The Super Mistral Fastback is one good looking frame; I had resolved to get a Mistral, preferably a Fastback, if I couldn't find a professional. Is yours in the team colours?

Glad you enjoyed the thread - I liked making it and the feedback was very helpful for getting the build correct.

The Campy Sport cranks were (as you say) mid-range, but I think they are very elegant, even more so than Nuovo Record cranks. They are not cheap either: fetching among the highest prices for any vintage Campy cranks. I've also read that they turned out to be more expensive for Campagnolo to produce than the alloy variety because of the precise machining required for the square taper hole.
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Thanks for the link. The price of the Lazer is putting me off quite a bit. Not sure why it has to be so expensive...
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Originally Posted by cyclotoine
The bike is beautiful, the attention to detail is amazing.

Regarding the helmet... i just got the Specialized "airnet" I love the nod to vintage aesthetic and got the flat black version. Really it's a great fitting helmet for my head and that's why I bought it, but I get a kick out of the nod to the helmet's origin and I think it won't look terrible aboard my vintage steel.
Thanks for the compliment.

Also, thanks for the Specialized Airnet recommendation: it does look rather like a hairnet but with proper protection. It's surprisingly hard to find a vintage style helmet which looks good.
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Originally Posted by realsteel
The Super Mistral Fastback is one good looking frame; I had resolved to get a Mistral, preferably a Fastback, if I couldn't find a professional. Is yours in the team colours?

Glad you enjoyed the thread - I liked making it and the feedback was very helpful for getting the build correct.

The Campy Sport cranks were (as you say) mid-range, but I think they are very elegant, even more so than Nuovo Record cranks. They are not cheap either: fetching among the highest prices for any vintage Campy cranks. I've also read that they turned out to be more expensive for Campagnolo to produce than the alloy variety because of the precise machining required for the square taper hole.
I take back my Asperbergery remark about the cheap crank! It was only a jest.

With your talent you could easily spray any helmet in the Holdsworth Team colors. Rustoleum makes spray cans in the requisite colors.

Latest of 4 re-paints of my bike.

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Originally Posted by realsteel
Thanks for the link. The price of the Lazer is putting me off quite a bit. Not sure why it has to be so expensive...
Also at Amazon

Amazon.com: 91908 SAHOO Bike Bicycle Helmet Capacete Ciclismo Casco Bicicleta Casque Mountain Road Cycling Helmet (Blue+Back): Sports & Outdoors
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Originally Posted by sced
I take back my Asperbergery remark about the cheap crank! It was only a jest.

With your talent you could easily spray any helmet in the Holdsworth Team colors. Rustoleum makes spray cans in the requisite colors.

Latest of 4 re-paints of my bike.
That is lovely! In fact, I think it is of the pictures that inspired me to find an orange Holdsworth in the first place: I've certainly seen it before.

Just think: both our frames may have been in the same room at the same time in 1973. Mine was factory-made and has serial number 37239. Is yours close?
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Originally Posted by realsteel
That is lovely! In fact, I think it is of the pictures that inspired me to find an orange Holdsworth in the first place: I've certainly seen it before.

Just think: both our frames may have been in the same room at the same time in 1973. Mine was factory-made and has serial number 37239. Is yours close?
Mine is #69559 . I think I once read that customs were numbered differently.
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Mine is #69559 . I think I once read that customs were numbered differently.
The shop-built frames were indeed differently numbered (I assumed that the first two digits were the year but this seems not to be the case).

I had to infer the date of mine from a fit to all the serial number data I could find: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post18723467
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What an incredible build! This thread is a mine of knowledge and inspiration. Very well done, the Holdsworth is sublime.
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Originally Posted by realsteel
That is lovely! In fact, I think it is of the pictures that inspired me to find an orange Holdsworth in the first place: I've certainly seen it before.

Just think: both our frames may have been in the same room at the same time in 1973. Mine was factory-made and has serial number 37239. Is yours close?
Mine was ordered in early 1973 because, as a 16-year old, I had gotten some of the money for it from my parents for 72 Xmas. I did not receive it until the Fall because there was a strike at Campagnolo and Holdsworth was the UK distributor. No doubt my frameset sat around for several months until parts became available, so indeed our bikes could have easily been within eyesight of each other.
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I've been through this whole thread 3 times in the last few months. Still in awe of the attention to detail and the love that was put in to this build. Gobsmacking. Thank you again for the diary @realsteel
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I've been through this whole thread 3 times in the last few months. Still in awe of the attention to detail and the love that was put in to this build. Gobsmacking. Thank you again for the diary @realsteel
+1, but I stopped counting how many times I have read through the entire thread, as it progressed. Thank goodness he has a new build starting up.

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Great thread and work, beautiful bike. Well done.
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Really beautiful bike - congrats!
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