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What exactly is a "randonneuring stem" ?

Old 05-17-16, 02:20 PM
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What exactly is a "randonneuring stem" ?

I understand the handlebars, I have some, I like them, I can tell the difference. But is there a difference in the stems? Something about height, or reach, or how the pinch bolt is oriented, or Frenchness, or something else?
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the difference is $30
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It's probably the Frenchness, lol.
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Any stem one uses to ride a brevet? I've never heard of the term myself... got a pic?
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I think the difference is more like $100.

I am pretty sure it's any stem that looks good next to a Berthoud bag.
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Old 05-17-16, 03:39 PM
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Where did you hear of this fabled beast? I must investigate.

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It would be the tall one.
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Maybe I have started a foolish thread, because now that I really dig, I can only find it in the context of i.e. "GB Randonneur bars and stem," or "SR rando bars and stem," which I could have misconstrued.
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I know that some randonneuring buddies have wished for arms that magically got longer toward the end of a ride. A stem that magically got taller would be pretty sweet.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
Maybe I have started a foolish thread, because now that I really dig, I can only find it in the context of i.e. "GB Randonneur bars and stem," or "SR rando bars and stem," which I could have misconstrued.
Randonneur bars are not uncommon, and usually have the outer part of the top of the bars raised a bit above the center. Haven't heard of rando stems, though, although there are some designed to incorporate the little doohickeys that support the front bag.

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(I believe "doohickey" is an old French term )
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Can't forget about the threaded boss for a bell too.
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randonneur stems exist.
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As far as I can tell, this just seems to refer to the name of that slotted stem, not necessarily denoting a specific function or category in the way "randonneur" applies to bars. But I could be wrong.
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Are not those the stems with the integral bell mount?
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Sorry OP, apparently we are a snarky bunch. There is no such thing as a randonneur stem. There is such thing as a randonneur bar, which is just a regular drop bar where the top is bent up a bit into a very shallow V shape.

Although I had rando bars on my Motobecane when I was 13, and I knew what they were because it said so in the brochure, I didn't actually know what a randonneur was until a couple years ago.
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Aren't they spelled "randnnner" or "raundeneouereer" or something like that?
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I think this is it:
https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/co...readless-stem/
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Over 10 years as a randonneur and I have not heard that term before. You can "set up" a bike as a randonneur, which for many would include a slightly higher rise on the stem. One reason being is that after 500 kilometers your arms are too short. The part of your body that can benefit the most from this is your neck. None of it makes any sense, especially the part about riding 600 km (375 mi) in under 40 hours, for fun!

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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
It appears to be this one, I think -- but again, just a chosen name for a specific stem, not a functional designation:

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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
But now, this question will come up every few years, and searches will lead to this thread. If we try hard enough, we can spread rumors that randonneur stems exist.
Of course they exist. I was just reading about them on the internet.
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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
(I believe "doohickey" is an old French term )
The French word is "widget," the t is silent

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But now, this question will come up every few years, and searches will lead to this thread. If we try hard enough, we can spread rumors that randonneur stems exist.
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Of course they exist. I was just reading about them on the internet.
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here's a useful link i found:

All You Ever Wanted to Know About Randonneuring Stems for Bicycles
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A stem that goes a-riding?

Enduring randonneuring through weathers not abiding?
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
I was about to link to the quill version until I saw you'd posted this.

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The French word is "widget," the t is silent
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