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Why is my brooks b67 not boxed? There are many flaws

Old 05-22-16, 01:25 AM
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Why is my brooks b67 not boxed? There are many flaws

Sorry my English is poor.

Excuse me, Why is my brooks saddle in bags, Not boxed?

bags is OEM? or this is fake?

There are many flaws

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Old 05-22-16, 01:29 AM
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Did you purchase the saddle from an authorized Brooks dealer? If so, it's likely authentic and I'd expect the seller would allow you to exchange it.
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Old 05-22-16, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyDog75 View Post
Did you purchase the saddle from an authorized Brooks dealer? If so, it's likely authentic and I'd expect the seller would allow you to exchange it.
In Taiwan brooks dealer priced at 140 USD. brooks dealer is use boxed.

I buy this from bike shop (Not online store). But not brooks dealer.

they said this is OEM package. (Parallel)

only need 98 USD.



I know some saddle look like brooks. but they are different trademarks.


Have any fake saddle use brooks trademark?

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Old 05-22-16, 02:24 AM
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If it's not a fake then it must be a factory second, because it looks terrible. Take it back...
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It's possible it's a genuine saddle in OEM packaging. Retail packaging will include a fancy box and printed materials, while OEM packaging is often just a plastic bag.

Authentic or not, your saddle has some cosmetic defects. I'd expect a reputable seller to allow a refund, or at least an exchange.

Brooks' web site has a dealer locator, and it does list dealers in Taiwan if you'd prefer to find a saddle at a different shop:
BROOKS ENGLAND LTD. | LOCATE | TAIWAN
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It is leather. It will have flaws. I would ride it and not think twice about it. After a few months it will have more flaws. Comfort is the primary objective with a Brooks saddle.
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That saddle is suspicious. It's a difficult thing to 'fake' but there's enough wrong with it to at least call it a factory second. Hence the discount, no box etc. I would return it because of the skew at the nose. How will this ever be comfortable?
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Old 05-22-16, 07:25 AM
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A sharp knife would fix that. It certainly looks like a 'second' or a fake. But, considering you got it for 2/3 the asking price.......
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Old 05-22-16, 09:03 AM
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But OEM package is second? Or this is exception.

Tomorrow I will return.


Taiwan Brooks pricing is too high.

The Brooks b67 is 66 EUR in "hollandbikeshop.com" (Free TAX). But Taiwan Brooks dealer need 125 EUR.

Brooks Bag Islington Canvas is 190 EUR in "hollandbikeshop.com" (Free TAX). Taiwan Brooks dealer need 350 EUR.
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Old 05-22-16, 09:13 AM
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In an economy where everything is shipped, it will be expensive.

I would at at the least , take it back for a replacement.

Please tell us how it goes for you.
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The slightly angled name plate at the cantle is not so unusual. Seen many Brooks saddles through the years that have that "defect". What is more worrisome, as already mentioned is the slight flare of the leather at the nose. In addition to looking unsightly, it might cause ome chafing on your left inner thigh after some miles. Looks like the guy at Brooks might have been new at his job and did not quite trim the leather correctly........or maybe just had a few too many pints for lunch?
I'd return the saddle too. The nose on tht saddle is just too messed up.
Have you considered buying used? Lots of good used ones for good prices pop up for sale in this forum and at eBay, because of many riders that find out that they cannot adapt to the initial feel and break in requirements of a Brooks saddle.
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I don't know why but methinks you got a counterfeit Brooks saddle. Get yours from a very reputable dealer and you won't look back.

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Old 05-22-16, 09:35 AM
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I live in the USA and here's the packaging accompanying my B67 from Wallingford Bicycle Shop in New Orleans (just click on the photo):

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Brooks saddles and hand made bicycle frames, (actually hand made anything) have something in common - neither are ever perfect!

That said, it is the hand made thing that adds character to a vintage bicycle. The things that the OP is complaining about, to me, suggest hand made, not robot made, quality and the flaws present simply add character to the bicycle(or saddle).

No box, so what! Does that have anything to do with saddle quality? Will is matter when the saddle is on the bicycle?

Flaws, look at the bike you intend to use the saddle on. Is the bicycle flawless? Probably not. In fact, darn few vintage bicycles reached the show room floor, yet along the customer, in flawless condition. So...

Were it me, I would not get too upset at a flaw or two. In fact, it is those flaws that lend credibility to the hand build nature of the bicycle, in my opinion.
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And please note the wrench included in the packaging. You should have received one with yours and I've gotten one with every one of my Brooks saddles that I've ever ordered.

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Originally Posted by tjkoko View Post
And please note the wrench included in the packaging. You should have received one with yours and I've gotten one with every one of my Brooks saddles.
Bags packag is not have wrench.

Only instructions manual in envelopes.

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Originally Posted by randyjawa View Post
Brooks saddles and hand made bicycle frames, (actually hand made anything) have something in common - neither are ever perfect!

That said, it is the hand made thing that adds character to a vintage bicycle. The things that the OP is complaining about, to me, suggest hand made, not robot made, quality and the flaws present simply add character to the bicycle(or saddle).

No box, so what! Does that have anything to do with saddle quality? Will is matter when the saddle is on the bicycle?

Flaws, look at the bike you intend to use the saddle on. Is the bicycle flawless? Probably not. In fact, darn few vintage bicycles reached the show room floor, yet along the customer, in flawless condition. So...

Were it me, I would not get too upset at a flaw or two. In fact, it is those flaws that lend credibility to the hand build nature of the bicycle, in my opinion.

Only compare unacceptable this....

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Get a refund. And I paid $140 USD for my B67 about a year and a half ago in the USA.

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Any chance we could see pictures of the bicycle the saddle was intended for, please?
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Any chance we could see pictures of the bicycle the saddle was intended for, please?
???
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Its Leather.. In High Demand these days, so they make millions of them .. they cannot all be perfect .
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Originally Posted by randyjawa View Post
Any chance we could see pictures of the bicycle the saddle was intended for, please?
it might cause ome chafing on my left inner thigh after.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa View Post
No box, so what! Does that have anything to do with saddle quality?
I dunno, it seems obvious to me that the OP is wondering if the lack of a box might indicate the saddle is not genuine. Later, another poster identifies the bagged version as an OEM vice retail packaging. That seems to have cleared up that part of the original question (it did for me). I think it sux that OEM packaging doesn't include the wrench normally provided in the retail boxed versions, however.

For almost $100 I'd personally want a little more attention to detail. Hand-made doesn't have to mean details are overlooked. Quality control matters.

From the pics, it almost looks as though the spring coils are a little off in relation to one another, too. Or maybe that's just my old and unreliable eyes

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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Its Leather.. In High Demand these days, so they make millions of them .. they cannot all be perfect .
The only problem with that is that Brook's is supposed to b synonymous with very high quality.

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I think it's a factory second at a factory second price. Not sure why Brooks would let it leave the factory like that, but...?

Looks like Eric the Chamferer was asleep on the job that day and let the summer interns make a mess of things.

I'd try riding it, and if it felt OK, take a razor knife and do my own chamfering on that little flare on the nose.
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