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Vintage Bianchi Celeste match

Old 05-22-16, 09:14 AM
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Vintage Bianchi Celeste match

I recently acquired a 1973 Bianchi. All Campagnolo Record parts, dropouts, and a number stamp in the seat cluster indicating it is a very early 1973 Specialissima or Team bike.

Last night I began the teardown, and was very happy to find all the bearing surfaces on the headset and bottom bracket to be in great shape. Crankset is very nice, no stress cracks and very little wear marks on the crankarms and chainrings.

I have been trying to find a decent paint match for the Celeste color of this bike. From what I've read, trying to match Celeste is like hitting a moving target. I tried going to various paint stores to get a chip match. No luck. I tried to get the frame and/or fork scanned. Again, no luck. Paint scanners require a flat surface in order to function. Years ago I tried this and the minimum size flat surface was about credit card sized. The other day I tried the local paint dealer and their scanner requires a quarter sized flat surface. The flattest part of the fork didn't work, so I was officially out of luck.

So, I turned to Jack Trumbull at Franklin Frames in Ohio. He did a repair for me several years ago on a Colnago Mexico, and I was very pleased with the results. I hear his paint jobs are excellent.

Jack recommended I get Testors white, yellow, and sky blue, and mix and match until I got something close. No hobby shops close by, so I did the next best thing, and went to the local hardware store and got several cans of Rustoleum spray paint.

This morning I started playing with colors and found something that worked. Take a look:

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Old 05-22-16, 09:19 AM
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So was this for touch-ups? Little chips and such?
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Old 05-22-16, 09:23 AM
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My wife was kind enough to give me several of her pipettes she uses for making these essential oil concoctions. These really help in portioning out correct volumes of paint.

My technique was to thoroughly shake up the paint cans and decant a suitable amount into a paper cup. Then just mixed until I got close, and applied a little to a chipped spot on the frame. After it dried, I checked to see how it matched, and if it wasn't close, I wiped it off with a rag dampened with spirits, and started over.

So far, the 3 colors required are turquoise, yellow and blue. I am working with two ratios right now and am waiting until they set up to make my final judgement. The ratios are: 30 parts turquoise, 5 parts yellow, and either 3 or 4 parts blue.

Eventually I will airbrush a card and get it scanned, and have a quart made up, to see how close the scanned batch matches. I plan on keeping the original paint and just touching up.
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So was this for touch-ups? Little chips and such?

Dave,

Yes, the paint is just for touching up the frame.
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Great work, keep it up and you will have another full time job. A good friend of mine is a world class painter and one of his biggest gripes is paint matching because it is so difficult. Also keep in mind that custom paint will not cure the same as rattle can and may not be the same color in the end as they are different composition.

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Eventually I will airbrush a card and get it scanned, and have a quart made up,
Be sure to post your findings here. I've seen other auto codes and such even here at the forums: http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/653192-yet-again-bianchi-celeste-paint-code.html
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I tried each of the above mixes and found what I was looking for was about halfway between each. So I mixed up another batch.

60 parts Turquoise
11 parts Yellow
7 parts Blue.

Probably about as close as I'm going to get.
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I love the determination, scientific methodology, and results!!
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Here are a couple shots showing the paint match.

I put some paint on the chrome part of the fork crown, which I believe was originally painted. This should show how close the match is:



The seller told me there was about a 6 inch scrape along the drive side seat stay. Before and after pics. Scrape area still needs a little building up. Once paint is fully cured it will be wet sanded with 2000 grit paper and buffed out with Scratch-X 2.0

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