Removing a air bottle basement
06-04-16, 09:04 AM
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Removing a air bottle basement
How do I remove a air bottle basement on my Miyata?
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06-04-16, 09:33 AM
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How is it attached to the frame?
06-04-16, 09:55 AM
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What's a basement? I know what a house basement is. Are you referring to the mounting base?
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never seen that sort of "attachment" for spare CO2 bulbs, but i'd guess you either have a factory-installed water bottle boss on the underside of the down tube, and this base uses a 5M bolt to attach there, OR something like a riv-nut has been added by a PO, OR something is glued onto the tube...more info needed...
06-04-16, 10:05 AM
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He means base. The kurled- rough knob on the bottom will turn and release it. I thought someone already answered this?
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06-04-16, 11:08 AM
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Some Miyatas (late '80s / early '90s?) came with a single threaded boss on the underside of the downtube for an "air bottle basement" to store CO2 cartridges. I've seen 'em in catalogs, but haven't come across one in person.
06-04-16, 12:33 PM
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Yah, I'd take that off asap too. Not only is it ugly on the bike, but look how those two legs at the top of the mount might digging into the down tube's paint
.....Make sure you touch up any paint damage it might have caused!
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06-04-16, 06:37 PM
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I took it off and will post pictures tomorrow
06-04-16, 10:09 PM
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Believe it or not- It's actually called an "air bottle basement." Zoom in on the "features" text inside the main triangle.
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Some novel ideas are just that, but not good, just strange. I can see all kinds of crud slowing up the fill procedure.
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I suspect the word "basement" was someone's translation from Japanese to English.
I worked in a factory years ago with machines that had a control panel which included a valve to bleed the air from the system. Normally we would label this as "purge" or "bleed". However, the machines and the panels were built in Japan, so they labelled it as their translator saw fit. Therefore, all of these machines--dozens of them--came in with the valve labelled....."VOMIT valve". Even though we pointed out their poor wording on the first machine, the Japanese wouldn't budge. Almost 20 years later I bet there's still new employees at that factory laughing at the "vomit valve".
I worked in a factory years ago with machines that had a control panel which included a valve to bleed the air from the system. Normally we would label this as "purge" or "bleed". However, the machines and the panels were built in Japan, so they labelled it as their translator saw fit. Therefore, all of these machines--dozens of them--came in with the valve labelled....."VOMIT valve". Even though we pointed out their poor wording on the first machine, the Japanese wouldn't budge. Almost 20 years later I bet there's still new employees at that factory laughing at the "vomit valve".
06-06-16, 01:26 PM
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06-06-16, 08:28 PM
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06-06-16, 08:57 PM
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I've had a few of those on my Miyatas. I thought there were genius, Genius!. I've expected Specialized to come out with those on their next breakthrough model; perhaps holding batteries, hydraulic reserves, wireless hub. And, what about UCI weight tuning..?
06-06-16, 10:34 PM
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How dorky is that? I just see an off white album spine with "Apple" on it, and guess that one...
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06-07-16, 07:49 AM
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CO2 cartridge holders may not have the greatest aesthetic appeal but they are extremely practical in races were there is no support, such as triathlons and mountain biking. The time savings in inflation is substantial and it is very reassuring to have the cartridges in a known location on the frame, rather than having to fumble around in a jersey pocket or seat bag, in an attempt to find it. The retention method is more secure than a a fame mounted pump, which have been known to eject in off-road conditions. The chance of introducing dirt during the inflation process are no more than when using a frame mounted pump.Fortunately, I only ever needed to use a CO2 cartridge during one race. I was in 3rd place and only lost 2 positions replacing a rear inner tube. If I had relied on a pump, I definitely would have lost more time and dropped out of the top five.
Most Tri and ATB competitors gave up and DNF'd when they had a flat. To me, a CO2 cartridge holder was a sign of somebody with a "never day die attitude". As such, any competitor equipping his bicycle with one had my immediate respect.
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06-07-16, 04:49 PM
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That actually seems pretty clever. Is the threaded knob that holds it on also the inflator?
Edit: A word that isn't a swear but apparently is?
Edit: A word that isn't a swear but apparently is?
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I suspect the word "basement" was someone's translation from Japanese to English.
I worked in a factory years ago with machines that had a control panel which included a valve to bleed the air from the system. Normally we would label this as "purge" or "bleed". However, the machines and the panels were built in Japan, so they labelled it as their translator saw fit. Therefore, all of these machines--dozens of them--came in with the valve labelled....."VOMIT valve". Even though we pointed out their poor wording on the first machine, the Japanese wouldn't budge. Almost 20 years later I bet there's still new employees at that factory laughing at the "vomit valve".
I worked in a factory years ago with machines that had a control panel which included a valve to bleed the air from the system. Normally we would label this as "purge" or "bleed". However, the machines and the panels were built in Japan, so they labelled it as their translator saw fit. Therefore, all of these machines--dozens of them--came in with the valve labelled....."VOMIT valve". Even though we pointed out their poor wording on the first machine, the Japanese wouldn't budge. Almost 20 years later I bet there's still new employees at that factory laughing at the "vomit valve".
06-08-16, 03:09 AM
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I suspect the word "basement" was someone's translation from Japanese to English.
I worked in a factory years ago with machines that had a control panel which included a valve to bleed the air from the system. Normally we would label this as "purge" or "bleed". However, the machines and the panels were built in Japan, so they labelled it as their translator saw fit. Therefore, all of these machines--dozens of them--came in with the valve labelled....."VOMIT valve". Even though we pointed out their poor wording on the first machine, the Japanese wouldn't budge.
I worked in a factory years ago with machines that had a control panel which included a valve to bleed the air from the system. Normally we would label this as "purge" or "bleed". However, the machines and the panels were built in Japan, so they labelled it as their translator saw fit. Therefore, all of these machines--dozens of them--came in with the valve labelled....."VOMIT valve". Even though we pointed out their poor wording on the first machine, the Japanese wouldn't budge.
More to it than that... The Japanese took pride in their "Jinglish" translations - even when they knew they were completely wrong! They frequently used dictionaries for translations.
When I was in Japan in the 60's the phrase that took me a long time to figure out was "alimentary paste"! It appeared on most menus with Engrish translations. They called NOODLES paste meaning PASTA!
In the Japanese culture, to admit that someone or something is wrong is tantamount to loss of face. Think Fukushima nuclear disaster!
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