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Old 06-05-16, 06:43 AM
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Is this original Marin Bike?



i bought an old bike yesterday in Indonesia. It has a decal "Marin Indian Fire Trail", with a single Bidon, steel frame, Shimano GS200 groupset, 19" frame size", without a rear drop out, without eyelet rack. Is this a series of Marin Indian Fire Trail bike?
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Indian Fire Trail was a highend alluminum framed bike With mostly XT Components. Yours is something else, GS 200 is near the bottom of Shimano stuff. Pictures would help.
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Old 06-05-16, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by plodderslusk View Post
Indian Fire Trail was a highend alluminum framed bike With mostly XT Components. Yours is something else, GS 200 is near the bottom of Shimano stuff. Pictures would help.





if not a marin bike, what brand?
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I can't find any other Fire Trails with a low end frame and components. It could be one of three things, an original early bike before Marin drastically changed the model into a high-end performer, or they marketed a cheaper version in a different market (Indonesia) or someone bothered to re-decal a whole bike. I think the second option is likely.
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Old 06-05-16, 08:40 AM
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Shimano 200GS would place the bicycle 1991-1992 if the components are OEM. During this period the Marin model with 200GS was the Muirwoods. However, it still used cable routing under the bottom bracket shell and did not use a claw mount for the rear derailleur. As previously noted, it does not match an Indian Fire Trail either. Consequently, everything is pointing to an entry level brand with Marin decals applied by a previous owner. The serial number may provide a clue to the manufacturer and actual brand.
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yes, I think it use 200GS compenents as OEM. My question is, does marin always has a serial number on the frame ?
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
Shimano 200GS would place the bicycle 1991-1992 if the components are OEM. During this period the Marin model with 200GS was the Muirwoods. However, it still used cable routing under the bottom bracket shell and did not use a claw mount for the rear derailleur. As previously noted, it does not match an Indian Fire Trail either. Consequently, everything is pointing to an entry level brand with Marin decals applied by a previous owner. The serial number may provide a clue to the manufacturer and actual brand.
Wasn't Shimano 100/200/300/400/500 lines out in '88? I seem to recall seeing them on the floor at that time.
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Originally Posted by juragankambing View Post
yes, I think it use 200GS compenents as OEM. My question is, does marin always has a serial number on the frame ?
All the Marin I've seen have had a serial number, on the bottom bracket shell. Marin had a distinct serial number format that required their contractors to use.
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Originally Posted by clubman View Post
Wasn't Shimano 100/200/300/400/500 lines out in '88? I seem to recall seeing them on the floor at that time.
Exage came out in the very late 1980s, but still used group names (i.e Exage Mountain, Exage Trail, Exage Country). They were replaced by 300EX, 400EX and 500EX in 1990. 200GS came out for the 1991 model year.

BTW, I considered the probability of foreign importers using alternate model names and slightly different specs. However, I thought there was a very low probability of Marin of allowing their brand to be tarnished by putting it on a frame with stamped dropouts and a claw mount derailleur.
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I thought there was a very low probability of Marin of allowing their brand to be tarnished by putting it on a frame with stamped dropouts and a claw mount derailleur.
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