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Old 06-20-16, 07:35 PM
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Girardengo? Champion of the world badge

Picked up this frame on eBay for fairly cheap. I think it is a girardengo based on the head badge, still have questions about the seat tube badge though. I've never seen this seat tube badge on any other bike. It says "Champion of the World, Trade Mark"
I know other girardengo bikes have a seat badge but most have a letter G with the name of the province in Italy where they were made, Allessandria.
Anybody know what the "Champion of the world" seat badge means?
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Don't know anything about it, but that is an interesting frame with some nice features and an unusual and good looking color scheme, imho.
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Cool badge.

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Uber cool headbadge.

Through the top tube cable routing and bullet fast back seat stays make your frame interesting.

What sort of build are you planning for it?
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I'm not totally sure what sort of build I'll do yet. I will probably end up making it single speed because I live in Florida. But if anyone has any ideas I'm open. I just saw it on eBay for cheap and thought it looked rad.
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Welcome to the forum Quimbian and thanks for sharing this interesting find!

Have had two of these Girardengo frames with the seat tube emblem come through my workshop and in both cases it was the "G" type. This is the first I've seen of this World Champion emblem.

Frame constructed with an Agrati lug pattern called "SPORT" and head is bulge-formed.

Forum member Oldairhead has recently created a web site to honor Constante Girardengo. You might enjoy a visit if you have not already found it.

https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com...rardengo-barn/
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See Girardengo, main

There a lot of history behind the maker, dating back to pre-WWII Italy.



Neat frame, I'd put the time into making it rideable.
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Your bike was also mentioned on the website @juvela mentioned. I mean, specifically your bike.

Scroll down to the "Late 60's" section heading down the page a little ways: https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com...rardengo-barn/
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Originally Posted by billytwosheds
Your bike was also mentioned on the website @juvela mentioned. I mean, specifically your bike.
Billy,

He sent me the photos to include on the website. I categorized it as late 60's because the two badges only seemed to occur during the last years of the marque. Also, as a mid tier or lower frame because of the dropouts. It is all speculation however since there seem to be no available catalogs to reference.
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Originally Posted by Oldairhead
He sent me the photos to include on the website. I categorized it as late 60's because the two badges only seemed to occur during the last years of the marque. Also, as a mid tier or lower frame because of the dropouts. It is all speculation however since there seem to be no available catalogs to reference.
Ah, gotcha. Well at least there's now a record of it somewhere, that can be built upon on or disputed by the next folks to come along with a Girardengo. Thanks for curating all those images and model information
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Originally Posted by Oldairhead
Billy,

He sent me the photos to include on the website. I categorized it as late 60's because the two badges only seemed to occur during the last years of the marque. Also, as a mid tier or lower frame because of the dropouts. It is all speculation however since there seem to be no available catalogs to reference.
Thanks for the input!
From doing my own research (mostly using your website) I figured that it was a mid to late 50s mid tier model because it has the same headset as the 1959 on your site as well as the paint scheme from the 1952. Another strong piece of evidence is the Champion of the World badge might mean someone on their team won a race that year. Rik Van Steenbergen won the 1954 Milan-San Remo on the Girardengo Team.

https://bikeraceinfo.com/classics/Milan-San%20Remo/1954-milan-san-remo.html

He was also 1st in the World Pro Cycling Championships in 1956 and 57, wether or not he still rode for Girardengo, I don't know.

https://bikeraceinfo.com/worlds/worlds-1957.html

I'll have better photos soon and plan on building it to ride. Haven't bought any parts yet because I don't know exactly how old it is.
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That is all good research. It is too bad there is not more info available to help determine. Right now I think the date is indeterminate and I will leave it categorized as late 1960's on my page. My reasons are that the head badge is most similar to the 1960's versions I have shown. Also the world champion badge on the seat tube is clearly seen on the 1967 bike shown in the barn page. I have not seen that badge on earlier bikes. Also, that headset, especially the bottom cup could have been used later. The 1970's bike shown appears to have the same unit. I think that paint is not a clear indicator of year of manufacture. I am open to persuasion if better info become available. Keep up the good work!
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