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@rumrunn6 - Specialized offered a suspension fork for this frame too. I suspect the rigid fork makes up for the difference.
The rear configuration has changed since I added a rack. I use black tie straps. Nice and easy to adjust the tension.
The rear configuration has changed since I added a rack. I use black tie straps. Nice and easy to adjust the tension.
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@rumrunn6 black tie straps. Nice and easy to adjust the tension

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@rumrunn6 - Frankly, I am surprised how well all this worked out. The fenders are spec'd for 1.9 tires and I am using 2.3 tires. Yes the gap is small but it has worked out well and the water control exceeded my expecations.
The only disadvantage is that when I remove one hand from the handle bars, the forces cause a little rubbing between the tire and the fender! Pretty close! Took a few iterations of adjustment to get it just right, but it really hasn't moved.
The front was worse than the rear as the brake cross over pushed the fender down so the whole fender pivots around that point. A compromise had to be found to avoid the front of the fender from rubbing on the tire vs the rear(back) of the fender rubbing on the tire and the adjusting the height of the fork crown mount.
I have thought about cutting a relief in the fender to account for the brake cable cross over but why? Yeah it makes a funny sound when the brake is applied and the fender deflects a little but I don't get any water on the cable. The rear is much the same but was easier to adjust. I can hear small pebbles roll between the tire and the fender occasionally. Nothing has stuck so far in about 3000 miles of commuting.
The only disadvantage is that when I remove one hand from the handle bars, the forces cause a little rubbing between the tire and the fender! Pretty close! Took a few iterations of adjustment to get it just right, but it really hasn't moved.
The front was worse than the rear as the brake cross over pushed the fender down so the whole fender pivots around that point. A compromise had to be found to avoid the front of the fender from rubbing on the tire vs the rear(back) of the fender rubbing on the tire and the adjusting the height of the fork crown mount.
I have thought about cutting a relief in the fender to account for the brake cable cross over but why? Yeah it makes a funny sound when the brake is applied and the fender deflects a little but I don't get any water on the cable. The rear is much the same but was easier to adjust. I can hear small pebbles roll between the tire and the fender occasionally. Nothing has stuck so far in about 3000 miles of commuting.
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@rumrunn6 Nothing has stuck so far in about 3000 miles of commuting.
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Cannondale T700 I bought several years ago, dressing it up for a friend's birthday present. The paint on these 90s Cannondales is incredible.

'90 or '91 Schwinn Voyageur. Got it for cheap, and it was a mess. I switched it over to 700C wheels, put a new chain, riser bar, horribly mismatched color-wise bartape (probably will cover w/black cloth tape), Brooks saddle, bell, platform pedals, rack, panniers and fenders on it. Rides Smoove.

'90 or '91 Schwinn Voyageur. Got it for cheap, and it was a mess. I switched it over to 700C wheels, put a new chain, riser bar, horribly mismatched color-wise bartape (probably will cover w/black cloth tape), Brooks saddle, bell, platform pedals, rack, panniers and fenders on it. Rides Smoove.

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Hmm, put new tires on the Bianchi.
The tires in question are Continental. I'm not sure which is more impressive, the tires or the little boxes they came in. An enlarged pic on the side of the box:

"We dare you to ride on anything else!"
Now that is taking pride in your work.
The tires in question are Continental. I'm not sure which is more impressive, the tires or the little boxes they came in. An enlarged pic on the side of the box:

"We dare you to ride on anything else!"
Now that is taking pride in your work.

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Work continues on my MTB drop bar conversion. The v-brakes and levers came in the mail this week and I found a long forgotten Tange Switchblade way back on a garage shelf (and didn't even have to cut it to fit). Now I play the waiting game for the postman to deliver a set of 7-speed Accushift bar ends from Greece.
Got the bars taped on the Centurion; thought grey would add a nice accent to match the silver. All that's left on my first C&V project is a shakedown ride.
Got the bars taped on the Centurion; thought grey would add a nice accent to match the silver. All that's left on my first C&V project is a shakedown ride.
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'90 or '91 Schwinn Voyageur. Got it for cheap, and it was a mess. I switched it over to 700C wheels, put a new chain, riser bar, horribly mismatched color-wise bartape (probably will cover w/black cloth tape), Brooks saddle, bell, platform pedals, rack, panniers and fenders on it. Rides Smoove.

The only brakes I could get to work were Shimano CX70's, but I had to modify the pads with spacers not supplied by Shimano. Interested to see how you fared with yours.
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@Scottybigs, what stem is that? I may want one like it.
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@Scottybigs, what stem is that? I may want one like it.
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No, it's my fault, not yours.
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Replaced the water pump and Poly V belt on the 2000 WJ with over 205K on the clock. Both lasted a long time!
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What does this have to do with bicycles? Well the Jeep is used to transport the tandem and it took time away from bike wrenching!
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What does this have to do with bicycles? Well the Jeep is used to transport the tandem and it took time away from bike wrenching!
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@rumrunn6 - Well no, the fan and fan shroud had to come out together. The fan is held onto the pump with a big nut that I had to use a Ford wrench to span it.
It also required a special tool to hold the pump pulley from rotating. I used the other end of the tool made to remove the drum brake on the tandem. Two fasteners spaced correctly apart to insert in holes in the pulley.
4 fasteners and an electrical connector were part of the shroud removal. It has an electric fan as part of its assembly. The kicker were the mounting taps that ran into the inlet and outlet of the radiator on each end of the radiator. In addition, the bottom tab ran into the steering box. Took some creative manipulation to get it out without damage. Easier to get in. The pictures don't show the fan and shroud which consume most of the space you see.
The whole process with clean up was 5.5 hours. I hate draining glycol! It runs everywhere working on this kind of stuff.
It also required a special tool to hold the pump pulley from rotating. I used the other end of the tool made to remove the drum brake on the tandem. Two fasteners spaced correctly apart to insert in holes in the pulley.
4 fasteners and an electrical connector were part of the shroud removal. It has an electric fan as part of its assembly. The kicker were the mounting taps that ran into the inlet and outlet of the radiator on each end of the radiator. In addition, the bottom tab ran into the steering box. Took some creative manipulation to get it out without damage. Easier to get in. The pictures don't show the fan and shroud which consume most of the space you see.
The whole process with clean up was 5.5 hours. I hate draining glycol! It runs everywhere working on this kind of stuff.
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@rumrunn6 The whole process



speaking of water pumps & serpentine belts ...
end of last August,bring daughter back to school in VT (200 miles one way)
take 2 cars (cuz we're also bringing 4 ppl &a small fridge)
1 is my Jeep (2014 Cherokee KL)
we get up there and Wifey's car (2009 Toyoya Matrix) is making a racket
I inspect sound like the water pump and the pully is looking suspicious (wobbly?)
we just got there tho and we have to install the daughter into the dorm
unload, park cars, install daughter
need lunch & a small shopping trip for hangers
we all take the Jeep to town
heading back to the Jeep for return trip to the college, Wifey says she lost her car key
I have a spare with me but we retrace our steps in all the shops and the restaurant, no luck
finish with daughter, check car, sounds better (weird but ok) not great but better
we take it slow but sound getting worse, but pulley not wobbling but racket from pump. no fluid loss tho!
we continue on, it gets dark. bout an hour & 1/2 from home we hit the last rest stop
I pull into a space and son driving Wifey's car now pulls up next to me and they both have horrified looks on their faces pointing to the engine
pop the hood w engine running, I inspect
oh yeah it's loud & w a flashlight I see weird dust particles flying, the belt was shredding
tell son to turn off engine, it's done for the night
he's a little disoriented & just lets the manual trans roll a little toward me, no big deal I step aside & he stops the car & turns it off. mind you we were up at 5am & this is 9pm now, so I don't mind cutting him some slack
Wifey FREAKS &yells at him
he FREAKS & yells at her & throws the key, gets out & slams the door so hard
the door can not be opened & the key is destroyed, but I can still use it in the ignition, & I push the door panels back together so it opens
mayhem ensues
calm them down, son says "well, that went south fast"
AAA instructs us to leave the car overnight with the key hidden
call state police told them wutz going on so they know the car is not abandoned
told the information CTR person our info, so the 24hr crew knows the car is not abandoned
drive the 3 of us back home in the Jeep
get home son says: "wow 13 hrs later & we're down 1 person, 1 car & 2 keys"
her Matrix has 170K miles & the repairs have been minor over the years, brakes, tires, battery - pretty much all consumables
shudda done the water pump before taking it far away, tho
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@rumrunn6 - It is easier than replacing the water pump on a Cherokee 4.0. I've done that at least 3 times.
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The Holdsworth is finally back from the painters after having frame repairs done. I've started re-assembly.. still need a few parts, but it's coming together.
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@GordoTrek - Need pics of that new paint!
@rumrunn6 - Speaking of belts. I was watching the belt every time I put a gallon or 1/2 in every day. Seals go out first on the shaft. The belt was disintegrating and leaving deposits on the smooth pulleys. I had to use a brass wire wheel to clean off all the build up!
After removing the belt, I thought it would be worth checking it out and found this:
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I was trying to avoid your experience, which is horrific experience when you are anywhere more than 2 blocks from home! I have seen belts that are nearly 1/2 gone, 3/6 groves engaged with the engine still running. I think this was the original belt too! I bought the Jeep with 125K on it so I really don't know.
My next bike related wrenching will be cleaning parts in my new HF ultrasonic cleaner.
@rumrunn6 - Speaking of belts. I was watching the belt every time I put a gallon or 1/2 in every day. Seals go out first on the shaft. The belt was disintegrating and leaving deposits on the smooth pulleys. I had to use a brass wire wheel to clean off all the build up!
After removing the belt, I thought it would be worth checking it out and found this:
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I was trying to avoid your experience, which is horrific experience when you are anywhere more than 2 blocks from home! I have seen belts that are nearly 1/2 gone, 3/6 groves engaged with the engine still running. I think this was the original belt too! I bought the Jeep with 125K on it so I really don't know.
My next bike related wrenching will be cleaning parts in my new HF ultrasonic cleaner.
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Just finished my own '83 Voyageur build up--what did you use for brakes for the conversion to 700c? Also what tire clearance have you got on there?
The only brakes I could get to work were Shimano CX70's, but I had to modify the pads with spacers not supplied by Shimano. Interested to see how you fared with yours.
The only brakes I could get to work were Shimano CX70's, but I had to modify the pads with spacers not supplied by Shimano. Interested to see how you fared with yours.
@Scottybigs, what stem is that? I may want one like it.
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Spent the weekend down in Portland visiting family and on some official family business (if one of those can qualify as spending time and holding my six week old nephew
). In what will appear in another thread, I stripped and sanded the paint off my Paramount resurrection project and I think I got all the dust out of my nose... Really cool to see the "Reynolds 531 butted" stamped into the tubing. I have a few projects waiting for me up here in Seattle, which I am looking forward to getting to.

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Wrenching? he asks. Not exactly wrenching but all I've done bikewise lately is put new tires on the Bianchi and the Centurion this weekend. Oh, and rode 40.5 miles on Sunday, cold and wet, but that's not wrenching.
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