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Old 12-26-20, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JacobLee
Well, that didnít want to come off!



Sprayed PBlaster in there for a couple of days, filed down a Suntour tool until it fit really nicely, snugged it in with a skewer, clamped it in the vice, and crack!



Iíve never been in this situation, but I guess I have to take the freewheel apart and wrench it off. Any advice?
Oh no! Iíve had some stubborn free wheels before. For the worst ones, I will mount the removal tool in a bench vise and turn the wheel. Seems to work well.

Here is my guess, you will probably need 2 chain whips to get the cogs off. After that, you could try to take the freewheel assembly apart by removing the bearing cover with a pin spanner. Not sure what sort of tool you would need to pull what is left off of the hub.
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Old 12-27-20, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mkeller234
Oh no! Iíve had some stubborn free wheels before. For the worst ones, I will mount the removal tool in a bench vise and turn the wheel. Seems to work well.

Here is my guess, you will probably need 2 chain whips to get the cogs off. After that, you could try to take the freewheel assembly apart by removing the bearing cover with a pin spanner. Not sure what sort of tool you would need to pull what is left off of the hub.
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^^^^^^ Yes. When you get the outer FW body off and all the tiny bearings all over the shop floor, you'll most likely find two pawls with their return springs. Each is installed in a flat spot on the inner body. Remove those pawls and those two flat spots are a fine place to position the pipe wrench. With a bit of care you may even still have serviceable parts to put the FW back together.

BTW, if you put a Chinese food container or an aluminum pie plate under the hub when you remove the FW outer body, you many catch all the tiny ball bearings. Safer walking than letting them cascade to the shop floor. However with a "spoke protection disk" of that size, you maybe should do all this over a kiddie pool.
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Originally Posted by JacobLee
Well, that didnít want to come off!



Sprayed PBlaster in there for a couple of days, filed down a Suntour tool until it fit really nicely, snugged it in with a skewer, clamped it in the vice, and crack!



Iíve never been in this situation, but I guess I have to take the freewheel apart and wrench it off. Any advice?
You needed the Dura Ace type remover, I don't have a picture handy.
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Originally Posted by Mr. 66
You needed the Dura Ace type remover, I don't have a picture handy.
Yeah, I feel pretty stupid since thereís a shop close by that certainly has one. Iíll have to find a picture of the DA tool, just to see how itís different.
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Old 12-27-20, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JacobLee
Yeah, I feel pretty stupid since thereís a shop close by that certainly has one. Iíll have to find a picture of the DA tool, just to see how itís different.
The DA tool has the notches recessed into the body that creates a retaining ring to keep it from being pushed off center.
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Originally Posted by dmarkun

Found in the backroom of Velo Classique in Purcellville VA (great shop)


Stronglight 99 Crank and Suntour VX RD from 1976 Fuji America


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what rings are those on the Stronglight 99 bis triple? I've been looking for smaller chainrings for mine forever!
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Been building my wife a Christmas bike, complete with her particularities (indexed shifting, flat bars, wide tires) and mine (650b, vintage frames, dynamo lights, and the general Jan Heine experience).

I've got a new rear tire to match and a front derailleur clamp, but I've still gotta few other puzzles to solve.


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Very cool shop! How do you keep sawdust from covering your bicycles? I always try to move mine inside the house before any woodworking.
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After I cracked one of the tabs on my Shimano 600 mf-6207 Freewheel with a modified Suntour tool (should have known better; itís probably been on there for 35 years!), I was able to remove the cogs, catch the bearings, etc, and clamp it between two pieces of soft wood in a vise. Took some spinning and wood crushing, but I managed to get it off with no damage. I guess if I can get it back together, I can still use it.



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Stem swap

Replaced the original 70mm ATAX stem with a 90mm Gerry Burgess, for a little more comfortable riding position. Just in time to deliver champagne and homemade chocolate bark to neighborhood friends.


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Made a frame bag for Christmas for my brother-in-lawís bike (Surly Midnight Trucker).
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My first decent road bike was a mid-70s Peugeot U-08, so I've been looking for one as a casual rider. This was close enough - a 1978(?) Peugeot U-09. I believe this was basically a U-08 with a cotterless crank. I serviced the rim bearings and headset, swapped out most of the steel bits for alloy, including the rims, and bars, replaced the chain, cables, shift levers and front derailleur and mounted some continental tires. Still waiting on the tool to handle the Stronglight crank. I'm deciding now if its a keeper, and so far I like it. Could use a bit more polish, a different saddle, and brake hoods. I might also replace the stem levers with ones better suited to the new 6-speed freewheel.

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Old 12-28-20, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by noglider
We had some snow that stayed on the ground, so I figured itís time for winter tires. Putting the front one on was a b*tch, but I managed to do it without tools. (My rims are mismatched.) By the time I got on the road, it was clear so the need was gone. And man, do they ride terribly. Theyíre 35mm Schwalbe Marathon Winters with carbide studs. I might take them off or think about building a spare set of wheels. My average speed went down by about 2mph on a nine-mile ride.
I had a similar experience with studded tires. I tried both the Nokian W240s and the Schwalbe Marathon Winters. I think they slowed me down more than they did you! Plus, they packed the snow up in the fenders, seemingly no matter how far away from the tires the fenders were. Finally, on ice and snow, I didn't see a big advantage over a regular tire. If anything, it made handling more unpredictable, because either I'd have ALL the traction, or if I pushed the bike a little farther, I'd have absolutely none. Performance was little better than ordinary tires when I tested them on an iced-over lake, which surprised me. And yeah, they plow so quickly that it's not necessary but a couple times a year, if that! So I took them off and sold them.

At temps below ten or fifteen Fahrenheit, the Nokians were downright unsafe on any road! The studs are set in pads of soft rubber, designed to be compressed into the tire by the rider's weight so that the tire touches the road when you're not on ice, but at these low temperatures, the rubber stiffens up and the studs don't get compressed into the tire, so you can get into a situation where no rubber is contacting the road. I fell because of this once. Carbide on concrete doesn't provide a whole lot of grip. At least the Schwalbes did not have this problem.
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Very cool shop! How do you keep sawdust from covering your bicycles? I always try to move mine inside the house before any woodworking.
Multiple shop vacs and ingenious dust ports. I can even use the stationary belt/disc sander now. The ingenuity was born after twenty years of the better half bemoaning all the dust.
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Just bought, trying to do myself, clean and repack, bearings had dry grease .
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Originally Posted by jPrichard10
what rings are those on the Stronglight 99 bis triple? I've been looking for smaller chainrings for mine forever!
On the Fuji America doner the rings were 28,44,52.
I found a 40 on eBay in 2010 ($50) and moved the 44 to the outer position, so now it's 28,40,44. Works out to be Sheldon's "half-step plus granny." But honestly, as the engine wears out I rarely shift from the 28.
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Now that my miyata ridge runner is complete, I stripped my Lotus Sprint down. Iím excited for this one, there arenít so many bits to clean up!
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Now that my miyata ridge runner is complete, I stripped my Lotus Sprint down. Iím excited for this one, there arenít so many bits to clean up!
I see that reflector lurking in the background. We loaded up the refractor last week Sunday and Monday for the Jupiter/Saturn conjuction, but of course it clouded over just in time to obscure the view.
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I see that reflector lurking in the background. We loaded up the refractor last week Sunday and Monday for the Jupiter/Saturn conjuction, but of course it clouded over just in time to obscure the view.
yes, we have had bad luck this year. Our family drove 1 hour to a dark park to see the comet this year and it clouded over too! I tried to spy Jupiter and Saturn, same thing. Oh well, I will catch it in 800 years 😀.

The telescope was my father in-laws. Itís been fun learning how to use it with the kids.
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Originally Posted by kross57
My first decent road bike was a mid-70s Peugeot U-08, so I've been looking for one as a casual rider. This was close enough - a 1978(?) Peugeot U-09. I believe this was basically a U-08 with a cotterless crank. I serviced the rim bearings and headset, swapped out most of the steel bits for alloy, including the rims, and bars, replaced the chain, cables, shift levers and front derailleur and mounted some continental tires. Still waiting on the tool to handle the Stronglight crank. I'm deciding now if its a keeper, and so far I like it. Could use a bit more polish, a different saddle, and brake hoods. I might also replace the stem levers with ones better suited to the new 6-speed freewheel.

Nice bike. Youíve already got it home, you have to keep it now! I never met a Pug I didnít want to keep.
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Nice bike. Youíve already got it home, you have to keep it now! I never met a Pug I didnít want to keep.
Ha! I had a few move through my shop, but this is the first one that was my size. It is proving to be a very pleasant ride.
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Ain't she a beauty?!
It's a (1979?) AMF Roadmaster Scorcher that was donated to the bike share. I got it back to being safely rideable. It will probably go to someone in need of basic transportation, and for that it will be fine.
Second bike I've done recently that has the 26" x 1 3/8" rim/tire/tube size, which was new to me.


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Almost ready to go back together. I ended up with 68 bearings, put 38 in the back and 30 in the front, and you can see the spaces. Iíve got some 1/8Ē bearings I could throw in, or leave it. Anybody know how many go in an MF-6207?

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