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52telecaster 10-31-18 11:35 AM

Put drop bars on the bob. Been wanting to try this for a while because my neck feels pretty good. As you can tell they are still very high.https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f387743b20.jpg

Sorry, non drive side.

greg3rd48 10-31-18 06:17 PM

I installed a new FSA headset on my Cannondale R600. This build is ready to happen if I only had a few hours of true free time.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b30b83dd2.jpeg

DQRider 10-31-18 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by greg3rd48 (Post 20642661)
I installed a new FSA headset on my Cannondale R600. This build is ready to happen if I only had a few hours of true free time.



That's the thing, though, isn't it? This time of year, before we are buried in snow, I try to use every free moment for riding. But when the snow starts to pile up and riding becomes less attractive, I find that I can use that time to dive deep into my project bikes and really focus on doing them right. I don't know what your situation is, but I typically work about 50 hours a week and manage to carve out some free time on weekends.

I went riding tonight on the old DL-1. Just like with the graveyard photos, it seemed the appropriate steed to bring out there tonight. I rode amongst the Trick-or-Treat goblins, on streets where the cars were moving very slowly and carefully. That was very nice indeed. Quite surreal, in fact. Sorry I didn't bring my camera with me, but I wasn't sure how employ it in such fluid surroundings. Maybe next year...

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Honusms 10-31-18 07:34 PM

Working on my 1950s Captivante berceau mixte. Many interesting discoveries such as the horsehair wound around the ds crank and bb spindle. This evening I removed the rotted tires and came across this new-to-me rim tape workaround:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4f585b6ce.jpeg

Kdogbikes 10-31-18 07:35 PM

I decided to bring the Gitane TdF into the work area....a couple months ago a co-worker brought in this bike for me. I put on a wheel set and ride the bike a few times. In post 12960,( catch of the day thread), Verktyg mentioned the stem was to high and showed some pictures of what could happen. So today I pulled the fork and sure enough, A CRACK in the threads of the stem. So thoughts on if this repairable or not? I have a friend who is pretty handy with s welder. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f5b2a1058.jpeghttps://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ac32d4e77.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...13bee5c4c.jpeg

Schreck83 11-05-18 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Kdogbikes (Post 20642771)
I decided to bring the Gitane TdF into the work area....a couple months ago a co-worker brought in this bike for me. I put on a wheel set and ride the bike a few times. In post 12960,( catch of the day thread), Verktyg mentioned the stem was to high and showed some pictures of what could happen. So today I pulled the fork and sure enough, A CRACK in the threads of the stem. So thoughts on if this repairable or not? I have a friend who is pretty handy with s welder. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f5b2a1058.jpeg


I would think it could be welded or brazed and ground flat again- but I'll let others weigh in on that.
Because of the crack, the thread circumference has increased by the gap dimension, so the diameter is also larger. The gap should probably be closed prior to any repair.

gugie 11-05-18 02:46 PM

Another @JohnDThompson - Gugificazione joint!

Behold the Hurex dropout!

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9a81fc085c.jpg

Better than the last one I did, as the Huret stamp is much more pronounced and easily seen.

ryansu 11-05-18 05:20 PM

I thought this 87 Schwinn LeTour was going to be spend a little time, fix a few things send it along....instead I tore it down to the frame, I suck at flipping. Where it stands now

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be05c509f9.jpg

52telecaster 11-05-18 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by ryansu (Post 20649797)
I thought this 87 Schwinn LeTour was going to be spend a little time, fix a few things send it along....instead I tore it down to the frame, I suck at flipping. Where it stands now

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be05c509f9.jpg

flipping is overrated. It's more fun to gift it to someone who needs it.

rickrob 11-05-18 05:54 PM

Still working on the Jeunet. I bought the frame a few months ago from @JohnDThompson. I've got a set of NOS Mavic tubular rims for this bike. I'll build the wheels up over the winter.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...50f426cb8e.jpg

tyler_fred 11-05-18 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by 52telecaster (Post 20649803)
flipping is overrated. It's more fun to gift it to someone who needs it.

I wholeheartedly agree @52telecaster.

Sir_Name 11-05-18 09:32 PM

Around a year and a half ago a friend of a friend asked if I wanted a bike they were getting rid of. I took it, but the fork was bent and the bike has too much overlap with another for me to bother with trying to realign it, and no way I'd pass it on after that operation. Parts weren't worth the effort given their condition, so it sat in the basement. I figured I'd hand it to a co-op at some point, but a move delayed that.

Well, I bought a fluid trainer a couple days ago, so this wound up being great fodder for that. Given the condition of the bike and components I'd say the previous owner rode it year-round in New Haven with zero maintenance. Might as well have belonged to Davy Jones. Check out the salt:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1901/4...59557c51_z.jpg

The derailleurs and brake calipers still move smoothly despite their condition, so I'll take that as a good indication for their future. After rebuilding I'll wipe this down and add oil as needed, but good to know the components aren't too picky.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4879/4...16a0e2a9_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4901/4...c11a58a2_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4803/4...0af85fbe_z.jpg

Front caliper:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1907/4...f65bca07_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1952/4...06890c04_z.jpg

These got replaced.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4821/4...bc94c1a5_z.jpg

The chain was flexy like a coat hanger...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4880/3...0c3aa1f1_z.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4836/4...dfe32562_z.jpg

Here's the reason this sat for a while... The fork was obviously bent when it was handed over, but once I wiped away all of the road grime (there was a lot) I found this. Thankfully, it's a bend and not a crack. Still pretty questionable on a stationary trainer, but I'll keep an eye on it. I gave it a good grunt in each direction, nothing to indicate imminent failure. Solid enough for now while I look for a replacement.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4823/4...45f9645e_z.jpg

Sir_Name 11-05-18 09:33 PM

The bike came with some interesting Sakae ~biopace chainrings.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1914/3...5c3a2e79_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1952/4...b4a8fe2a_z.jpg

Back to that salty rear caliper. After a good amount of Liquid Wrench, hammer knocks and time:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4864/4...4d07b4e5_z.jpg

Careful...
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https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1956/4...314399b8_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1973/3...44fc6ab3_z.jpg

Six speed ~Uniglide cassette on a Maillard 500 hub.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1978/3...2ed0875f_z.jpg

The freehub would hardly budge at first.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1916/4...14db6232_z.jpg

I really should rebuild all of this…

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4877/4...680ca329_z.jpg

Some T-9, Phil and lots of spinning got things clicking and clacking again at least. Still too crunchy, though.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4902/4...aec1def7_z.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1953/4...c878a657_z.jpg

Gross. I’ll get to that soon. Beyond needing a deep clean, both hubs are also dry and loose of course. After that I'll throw fresh cables and tape at it. Thankfully the rear brake housing runs full length through the top tube.

Sir_Name 11-05-18 09:34 PM

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4885/4...26423ac4_h.jpg

Lascauxcaveman 11-06-18 01:31 AM

Over the weekend, I built up this (late 70s? Viva Sport?) for my older sis, to replace her incredibly rusty, bent, pig-iron mid 70s Mirage. That thing was a tragedy: Bent DS crank arm (cranks rusted in place; probably non-removable) stem rusted in place (probably non-removable) steel everything except for said stem, turkey levers and the well-worn VGT rear derailleur.

Her new bike features no less than 5 colors of cable housing, zip-tie cable clamps, hockey tape over recycled foam 'cork' bar wrap (added after pix) and a pair of alloy rims (mismatched, a certainement) which I put on her Moto a couple years ago when she still refused to give it up.

It's a low end, parts bin build, but unquestionably a huge upgrade over the Moto. The biggest improvement is the spindle doesn't move up and down and sideways 1/4" within the bottom bracket. Also good: 6+ lbs lighter. The recycled, bent, rusted, sanded and spraybombed fenders gave me a nearly perfect fender line after a few minutes of hammering the heavy metal fender stays into a mostly-straight condition. Honestly one of the easiest fender installations I've ever done. I'll take my little victories where I can get them :)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4803/...80bc891f_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1963/...cfd3c30e_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1943/...a7c66696_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1921/...143f15c3_b.jpg

Longtime readers may remember this old Univega as being the worlds ugliest fixie from years ago, complete with badly faded and peeling adhesive woodgrain shelf paper on the tubes:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4691/...4c6e2032_b.jpg

RiddleOfSteel 11-07-18 12:16 AM

Over the weekend I dismantled my '74 Paramount so that I could investigate why the headset would magically come loose (after having to over-tighten it slightly just to get it to not come loose 5 miles later). All the cups and cones/races look fantastic. No cracks in them or in the repaired fork (new steerer). So this one is baffling to me. I made marks on all the upper cups and washers so as to see if I could catch the shifty bits red-handed. Alas, they did move, but only 2mm! So what to do with a setup that has never felt misaligned (tight then loose then tight as one spins the fork)? Don't know! I think popping out the headset cups and refacing the head tube could be a good starting point. They've never been out, and though the head tube is not deformed, who knows what has happened over these last 44 years. I'm confident in the fork crown alignment because I witnessed @gugie face the crown race area and mount the crown race itself. Maybe the headset's top cap and top nut have their threads worn out and thus don't hold position in spite of my best...encouragement.

All that to say that my recent frame acquisition, a 1980 Trek 410 (had a few 412-specific parts still on it), is now adorned with some of the finest shiny touring bits. I had to drop the tire size from 32mm to 28mm to get the fenders to clear, but it all works well. I changed the Cinelli 65 bars / Shimano BL-R600 lever combo to a Nitto Noodle / Tektro R200 lever combo. The new setup is more comfortable for long rides on a frame/bike that's meant for them. The Cinelli 65s are fantastic and allow for a lot of comfort...on a shorter ride race bike. The 410 is geometrically very similar to my P15 Paramount, with slight variation in trail and longer chain stays (44.5cm vs 43.5cm). So far....I really like this bike. Was there orange rust dust along the bottom of the inner top tube? Oh yes. Is there paint bubbling in a number of areas beneath that beautiful nearly-black dark grey-blue metallic paint? Yup. Are the main tubes Ishiwata 022 and the rest 'just' hi-ten steel? You got it. I will do a build thread soon, for posterity and simultaneous evangelism regarding this 'entry-level' Trek's worthy place in a line-up of the nicest touring/sport touring bikes. I'm glad my excitement for this frameset has been affirmed with a fantastic ride!

gugie 11-07-18 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel (Post 20651946)
Over the weekend I dismantled my '74 Paramount so that I could investigate why the headset would magically come loose (after having to over-tighten it slightly just to get it to not come loose 5 miles later). All the cups and cones/races look fantastic. No cracks in them or in the repaired fork (new steerer). So this one is baffling to me. I made marks on all the upper cups and washers so as to see if I could catch the shifty bits red-handed. Alas, they did move, but only 2mm! So what to do with a setup that has never felt misaligned (tight then loose then tight as one spins the fork)? Don't know! I think popping out the headset cups and refacing the head tube could be a good starting point. They've never been out, and though the head tube is not deformed, who knows what has happened over these last 44 years. I'm confident in the fork crown alignment because I witnessed @gugie face the crown race area and mount the crown race itself. Maybe the headset's top cap and top nut have their threads worn out and thus don't hold position in spite of my best...encouragement.

Did we face and chase the head tube? I can't remember. I don't think we pressed the headset in, as my press isn't long enough for that frame.

RiddleOfSteel 11-07-18 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by gugie (Post 20652349)
Did we face and chase the head tube? I can't remember. I don't think we pressed the headset in, as my press isn't long enough for that frame.

We didn't do that since, I believe, the steerer and fork were the issues of the day (at least at the front of the frame), which is why I'm confident it isn't the steerer or fork. Having the headset cups on helped for taping and masking the lugs for painting as there was more 'neutral surface' to secure to when dealing with the complex Nervex lugs. The head tube has no bulges or other visual clues that would indicate a structural issue or misalignment, and of course the cups look to be happily and evenly seated. Headset cup and nut threads could be toast. It's still surprising to me that all the cups and races are 100% in great shape. Could I have too few bearing balls in each race/cup? There are at least 19-21 in the top (loose ball) and a tighter-packed caged setup (likely the same number range as the top--at least 19). I think it can hold up to about 22, but I'd have to check.

gugie 11-07-18 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by 52telecaster (Post 20642045)
Put drop bars on the bob. Been wanting to try this for a while because my neck feels pretty good. As you can tell they are still very high.

Neck issues? I have a slipped disc in my upper spine, makes it hard to hold my head up while riding - but little by little it's getting better. I even have one bike now that has the bars a half inch lower than the saddle!

It seems that everything I do to hurt myself gets better the more I ride...

gugie 11-07-18 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel (Post 20652443)
We didn't do that since, I believe, the steerer and fork were the issues of the day (at least at the front of the frame), which is why I'm confident it isn't the steerer or fork. Having the headset cups on helped for taping and masking the lugs for painting as there was more 'neutral surface' to secure to when dealing with the complex Nervex lugs. The head tube has no bulges or other visual clues that would indicate a structural issue or misalignment, and of course the cups look to be happily and evenly seated. Headset cup and nut threads could be toast. It's still surprising to me that all the cups and races are 100% in great shape. Could I have too few bearing balls in each race/cup? There are at least 19-21 in the top (loose ball) and a tighter-packed caged setup (likely the same number range as the top--at least 19). I think it can hold up to about 22, but I'd have to check.

I can face and chase it, but my press isn't long enough. If your co-op has the tools, I'd get that done first - it never hurts to have both bearing surfaces perfectly concentric. You can always bring it down to the Atelier for the face and chase if you don't otherwise have access to that tool.

RiddleOfSteel 11-07-18 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by gugie (Post 20652454)
I can face and chase it, but my press isn't long enough. If your co-op has the tools, I'd get that done first - it never hurts to have both bearing surfaces perfectly concentric. You can always bring it down to the Atelier for the face and chase if you don't otherwise have access to that tool.

My plan is to take it to Recycled Cycles and have them do it. They do other minor frame work (cold-setting, etc) so this should be within their capability. If not, then we can set up a time for me to bring it down to you, and likely that 620 fork while I'm at it. I'll see if I can get the chasing and facing done by Thursday or this weekend, and go from there.

EDIT: To everyone else reading this exchange, the headset loosening issue has been from day 1 of reassembly after paint and decals. The frameset came to the bike coop 'disassembled' with the frame hosting a carbon fiber fork (not joking) with a crown race literally placed on the crown yet not pressed down those last 6mm. The original fork was in a separate pile. There were beyond too many bearing balls in the headset, which again, was partially and very incorrectly 'assembled'. Upon reassembly, the Paramount was not ridden much, nor for very long distance, thus the headset loosening was a much slower occurrence. 90 miles over labor day weekend fully brought the problem (and its friend, frustration) to bear. As the Paramount has assumed winter/rain bike duty, with a number of rainy rides already completed, previous efforts to stop the loosening have failed and so I am sidelining it until I can get to the bottom of it. Gugie's replacement of the steerer while preserving the fork crown's chrome was astounding and greatly appreciated. His work is not nor has it ever been the problem. It is now time for me, personally, to try and fully address the headset issue, to do away with the band-aid solutions that have unfortunately not worked. Remember that this bike came to me in just about the saddest and weirdest state possible (outside of being fished from a lake where a murder happened or something), and just about no bike/frame escapes the jaws of death completely unscathed. To come away with this as the only (small) problem, well, aside from the steerer, is commendable and a testament to the quality of top-of-the-line Schwinn. Because of this P15, I've been on the very low key and very casual lookout for a P13 of the same era. Frameset, naturally. ;)

scozim 11-07-18 01:08 PM

Having a little fun cleaning up the new "errand/yard sale" bike for next spring and summer. The Weinmann 500 brakes may be cheap but they sure shine up nice.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1634eb1705.jpg

ryansu 11-07-18 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Sir_Name (Post 20650127)

50% less salt :D nicely done sir and a great bike for the trainer, I will remember that when I move the Trek 420 that is currently doing trainer duty to the rebuild queue a bike with a questionable fork might be the cheap ticket. Thank god we don't salt our roads in Seattle except once in a blue Snowpocalpyse (i.e > than 1 inch accumulation)

ryansu 11-07-18 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by scozim (Post 20652681)
Having a little fun cleaning up the new "errand/yard sale" bike for next spring and summer. The Weinmann 500 brakes may be cheap but they sure shine up nice.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1634eb1705.jpg

Seeing all these nice Pugs of late has me jonesing for one -like I really need another project! What model is Carbolite 103 your errand runner @scozim?

ryansu 11-07-18 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 20650279)
Over the weekend, I built up this (late 70s? Viva Sport?) for my older sis, to replace her incredibly rusty, bent, pig-iron mid 70s Mirage. That thing was a tragedy: Bent DS crank arm (cranks rusted in place; probably non-removable) stem rusted in place (probably non-removable) steel everything except for said stem, turkey levers and the well-worn VGT rear derailleur.

Her new bike features no less than 5 colors of cable housing, zip-tie cable clamps, hockey tape over recycled foam 'cork' bar wrap (added after pix) and a pair of alloy rims (mismatched, a certainement) which I put on her Moto a couple years ago when she still refused to give it up.

It's a low end, parts bin build, but unquestionably a huge upgrade over the Moto. The biggest improvement is the spindle doesn't move up and down and sideways 1/4" within the bottom bracket. Also good: 6+ lbs lighter. The recycled, bent, rusted, sanded and spraybombed fenders gave me a nearly perfect fender line after a few minutes of hammering the heavy metal fender stays into a mostly-straight condition. Honestly one of the easiest fender installations I've ever done. I'll take my little victories where I can get them :)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4803/...80bc891f_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1963/...cfd3c30e_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1943/...a7c66696_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1921/...143f15c3_b.jpg

Longtime readers may remember this old Univega as being the worlds ugliest fixie from years ago, complete with badly faded and peeling adhesive woodgrain shelf paper on the tubes:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4691/...4c6e2032_b.jpg

Nothing but the best for your Sis huh? :lol: I think the French for using all your spare bits of cable housing on one build is Collage.... or is that kladiescope? hmm


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