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Baroncini - Anyone heard of this branding?

Old 06-30-16, 04:22 PM
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Baroncini - Anyone heard of this branding?

So, I saw this up for sale and was really curious about it. It's listed as a "Baroncini Personal (Guerciotti)" and clearly has Guerciotti crown, stay caps and BB cutout, but never heard of the Baroncini branding, is it just a repaint or what? For the sake of learning, anyone have the backstory on the brand?

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Old 06-30-16, 04:22 PM
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Old 06-30-16, 04:39 PM
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Surely a repaint judging by the crappy job someone did masking the rear DOs, but a genuine Guerciotti, probably late-70s (nutted brakes, triangular cutouts in all the lugs).

I have nothing for you on the background of the re-brand.

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Old 07-01-16, 08:14 PM
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Thanks DD. Figured as much with the paint and whatnot, and Portacatena on Geurc puts it in ballpark of 77-79 if memory serves. Seems like someone really went out of their way to rebrand this thing, which made me really wonder about it. Who puts all that effort into re-branding a bike? That's what made me think small shop or something. I'm sending to a few friends of the family who have shops in a 250km radius around Firenze to see if any of them recognize the branding. Curiosity is killing me on this one. No intent to buy a bike in Croatia, but I'd still love to know more about it in case the name crosses my path again.
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Old 07-01-16, 08:29 PM
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Maybe personal is being used in the context of personalized, the painter? Kinda odd though to add your own head badge. The only other brand I have seen with Personal as a model is Gianni Motta.

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Old 07-02-16, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by francophile View Post
Who puts all that effort into re-branding a bike?
Well...

I re-branded this because I got it with non-original paint and no decals. Years after acquiring it I stripped the paint and did a crapload of modifications to the lug cutouts, engraving/pantographing and did a lot of work on the lugs, filing them, thinning them a bit more. I could've kept going forever, but I finally stopped and had EBB repaint it. Because I'd removed all traces of the former builder (Saba), I came up with Alpina. Bob used an Alpine (DC builder, now defunct) decal to get the font and this was the final result:






It's my drillium display bike and would probably sell second-last (because of its wonky history) if I ever liquidated my entire collection. I don't think I'll have to concern myself with that anytime soon, tho!

That's my re-branding story, and I'm sticking to it

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Did 10 SPD Drive own Guerciottti then? Could it have been a contract build for some team or shop?

I built a brand new Guerciotti or two that was actually a Battaglin
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Slightly suspicious that it's in Europe but will only ship to the USA. It didn't meet the reserve price.
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It was a weird one, @MiloFrance. But admittedly, with all of the stuff out of eastern Europe on eBay (Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Croatia, etc), I can't help but wonder if there are several fencing/chop operations going on over there, given the volume of high-quality stuff I see regularly passing thru which is geared towards US purchase.

And DD, that's gorgeous. It doesn't look like the Baroncini above has as much effort into it, and you did enough that I think it deserved a more personalized branding.

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Originally Posted by francophile View Post
It was a weird one, @MiloFrance. But admittedly, with all of the stuff out of eastern Europe on eBay (Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Croatia, etc), I can't help but wonder if there are several fencing/chop operations going on over there, given the volume of high-quality stuff I see regularly passing thru which is geared towards US purchase.
Yes, exactly. I hate to say it, but whenever I see an auction from any of the spots you mentioned, I move right along. I've heard too many stories. Lots more bikes and parts available elsewhere.

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