Stevensb 

The early 60's Gran Premio is my newest addition but unfortunately it arrived without the top nut on the steerer tube (apparently lost in transit.) I don't know what sort of headset this is so if you can help me with ID i would also appreciate that. Perhaps @Oldairhead or @Condorino can chime in as they seem to be Legnano experts.

I have lots of stuff, mostly Campy and Zeus, but also some Mafac Racer brakes and a Huret derailleur or 2, to trade.

Thanks.

Brad
Legnano Gran Premio by BJ Stevens, on Flickr

mountaindave 

Found!

Condorino

Hello,

I see that this bike is listed in the serial number listing on my CONDORINO website along with a single photo of the bike fully built. From your post it does not say if you purchased the complete bike or just the frame?

Based on the 1952 Bozzi parts catalog, I do not see the headset shown in your photos listed among the available models from Gnutti, Way-Assauto, Magistroni or Maiocchi. And the headset is not familiar to the Gran Premio model from my own collecting and research, leaving me to believe that it is not original to the bike and may explain why you do not have the top nut.

The Legnano Roma headseats from that era were either from Campagnolo (first Gran Sport model) or Magistroni. The Gran Premio models from these years were also fitted with the Magistroni headset or the almost identical looking headset from Way-Assauto. Depending on your plans for the bike, I would replace the current fittings with either of these headsets if you are looking for a period correct result.

best regards,

Mark Campbell

Oldairhead 

Ding ding! I would agree with Condorino that yours is not the original headset. Below is a pic of my 1962 GP with its original Magistroni headset. If you want to be "correct" this is what you want. The headset that you have doesn't look out of place though. If you want I can look through my stuff and see if I have something like the original. I just might!

Condorino

Hi Brad,

I may not be making your day here but the other images on your Flikr page would suggest that this frame is either a 'Corsa' or 'Mezza Corsa' model based on the style of the front and rear dropouts. The Gran Premio model was fitted with Campagnolo dropouts during this time. Also, the front forks appear to be missing the reinforcement tangs on the inside faces which were characteristic of the GP and Roma models.

The frame looks to have had some touchup work done at some point in the past based on the down tube logo and white bands on the seat tube which look to me like replacement decals . . . and the GP logo may have been added (quite honestly perhaps) at that time as it is usually on the sheet. This would also explain why the headset is not from Magistroni. Oldairhead may want to jump in here based on his own knowledge of the brand.

kind regards,
Mark

Stevensb 

I've had a bad week with blue bikes - first the Mondonico frame with the impact damage. And now the Gran Premio that isn't. You're right on all counts Mark - no Campy dropouts, replacement decals and no fork tangs. Regardless, I'll build the bike as a rider and have a little more flexibility in parts choice as I won't worry too much about originality. Thanks for the followup @Condorino. Now if I can just find a replacement headset nut.

Cheers.

Brad

AustinFitz

Does anyone have a 56-58cm Raleigh Grand Prix in these colors that they might be interested in parting with? I think it's an '86 or '87 model. I don't have much cash at the moment, but I do have some things I could possibly trade. Can be a complete, or even just a frame and fork.

For some reason I've just always wanted one of these... I'm not entirely sure why.

jethin

ISO for budget project:

- flat bar brake levers
- 26.0 seatpost

Anything that functions well; rider condition or better is fine.

HAVE: Whaddya lookin’ for?

Andy_K 

I've got a couple pairs of Shimano BL-R550 (short pull) levers. They aren't remotely vintage looking, but on the plus side they function well and are in mint condition.

degan

Still looking for a set of 3x8 brifters. Also a triple FD with a 32mm clamp, or maybe 31.8? Bottom pull.

sunburst

ISO. dual-pivot brakeset with decent pads. I could even use a front only, as I have a RSX rear, but would prefer a matched set. If you've got something really nice, like some Ultegras or equivalent, I've got Campy Centaurs with maybe 200 miles on them (I removed them due to lack of quick-release).

I have either (or both) to trade:
Shimano 600 and Weinman 500 brake calipers. Both sets have been cleaned, polished and lubed. The Shimano has some corrosion on the quick release pivots that wouldn't come out, but the brake arms polished better than the Weinmann.

I've got other stuff to trade as well: lots of stems (threaded and threadless, including two short-reach Technomics); some seatposts, including a black Thompson Elite in 27.2.








edit: successfully traded with two members (thx Andy K and dweenk!) and now have brakes for this bike and another.


Here's dweenk's 105 on my Moto. Easiest brake install I think I've ever done, 5-10 minutes tops. Somehow I avoided the endless brake tweaking I always seem to be doing with these old bikes (the cable is crushed from me messing around with the single-pulls).

Andy_K 

If you're open to black, I've got some short-reach Tektros that are in really good condition.

sunburst

I might consider at some point, but for now want to stick with silver. It's for a vintage Motobecane.

phobus

There's one for sale sort-of near me on Facebook, but I can't post the link or even a picture here because I don't have enough posts.

Try this: facebook.com/marketplace/item/2031242263819329

He's listed it as a 27" frame, but either my eyes are deceiving me, or Raleigh measured this frame really oddly, or he meant 27" wheels. It looks like it could be in the 58 range, anyway.

3speedslow

I had one of those frames but traded it away. My 58 was c-c so actually a l
Bit much for me. Bummed me out, I loved the colours and Raleigh offerings so much. My 84 SC is a keeper.

jonwvara 

I'm on a Man of La Mancha-type quest for a right-side Sakae Ringyo SP-155 pedal. I don't know why I only have the left one--it's probably from a bike that came to me with mismatched pedals. Here's a link to the Velobase image--I don't have the patience to go through the gyrations needed to post the actual photo here:

VeloBase.com - Component: Sakae/Ringyo (SR) SP-155

Does anybody have one of these fellows? I have trade goods.

Alternatively, make a case why I should send my single pedal to you, since the singletons aren't doing either of us any good.

This kind of reminds me of a (possibly apocryphal) story about Gandhi boarding a train as it was slowly pulling away from the platform. One of his sandals fell off his foot and landed down beside the tracks. He quickly pulled off his other sandal and threw it back next to the first one, and when asked why he said, approximately, "Well, that's so whoever finds them will have a pair of sandals they can use."

dweenk

[QUOTE=sunburst;20061853]ISO. dual-pivot brakeset with decent pads. I could even use a front only, as I have a RSX rear, but would prefer a matched set.QUOTE]

I have an orphan front 105 brake - sorry no rear to match it.

jethin

I have an orphan RSX front brake, but it's in rough shape (gummy, spray painted...) But it'd probably clean up decently with patience and elbow grease. If you're a glutton for punishment you're welcome to give it a shot.

3speedslow

Sent you a PM

TigreBici

Hello bikers
I have a Fuji 84 touring series frame with fork. Both were stuck with alum parts and we got them out but the seatpost, or at least 1/4 of it is still stuck on the frame. The size is a 64, hence is enormous for anyone I know (we all are in the 52-55 range) it suffer some damage from the removal of the seatpost, handerlbar post came out nicely. If anyone is interested we can offer it up for a trade or exchange. I am really happy with my bikes (at least now) but will say no for a new project for summer. Anyhow, message me if interested.

Oldairhead 

I honestly know very little about the lower tier Legnano from that period. But it still looks sharp!

Senior Ryder 00 

Hi folks,

I'm in the process of refurbishing an old Motobecane for our local co-op in Salem, OR. It was donated to us in very good condition. The paint and decals are exceptional considering the bike is probably could be 50 years old. It has a steel, cottered, Solida crankset and bottom bracket with French threading. The BB is smooth and I'd prefer not to try to disassemble it because of dealing with the cotter pins. Any set of French threaded pedals will work since this bike will probably go on display on our C&V shelf. However, we like to have all of our bikes fully functional and rideable.

I don't know what the vintage might be, but it has "safety" levers and stem shifters. Also, the wheels appear to have been upgraded. It currently has Mallard hubs laced to alloy Champion rims with galvanized (?) spokes. I'll post a picture when it's finished.

Oops, forgot to include trade stuff. We have several vintage Dia Compe & Weinmann calipers, both-center pull and side-pull. Also, there are some Mafac Racer center-pull calipers. We may have some applicable drop bar levers.

Thanks and regards,

Van

dweenk

Sunburst - here are 2 pix of the 105.

Steve Whitlatch 

I have these Lyotard pedals in pretty good shape. They have the round spots of chrome loss as shown. Other than that, they look pretty good. I could use the Mafac Racers?

IMG_1251.jpg

merziac

Those spots are from where the center barrel rotated away from the center supports, not sure if they were originally bonded somehow or held in place by tension. Some times they can be turned back. I have some Racers if the other deal doesn't pan out.