Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

1985 Fuji Sagres

Old 07-18-16, 01:37 PM
  #1  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 530

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
1985 Fuji Sagres

Hello all,
I'm almost done fixing up this 1985 Fuji Sagres. I got it off of Craigslist for $5, missing only the wheels.
As I got it:

I stripped it down, removed a stuck seatpost (I used a bench vise), and resprayed the chainstays. It's hard to see in my bad photo but they were quite rusty.
Then I got a pair of 700c wheels at the bike co-op (rear needed some new spokes), installed downtube shifters, got some Dia Compe brake levers without extensions, and put it together.

I'm using some nice Continental 700x25 tires I had laying around. The rear wheel is 36h, a Campagnolo hub and an Araya hard anodized, double walled eyeleted rim. The front wheel is a 32h Shimano 600 hub and Wolber GTX rim.



I have brake hoods, cables, and bar tape on the way. There are just a few things I need to decide.

It came with a Sugino GP 52/42 crank. As this is a lower end bike it had chrome plated steel chain rings. The crank had chrome look finish to match, which was almost totally gone.
The steel chain rings have to go because of weight. If I could polish the crank to look decent I'd be open to the idea of reusing it with alloy chain rings. Also, I'd like a smaller chain ring than 42, maybe 39.

I have a 52/40 Sugino Maxy, but I don't think it would look right on this bike. I also don't know what bottom bracket shaft length it needs.

And that's the other thing. I overhauled the bottom bracket with new balls and grease. It turns freely with no play, but it feels and sounds "growly". I wonder if the cups are worn out, they didn't look too good.

I'll post updates when I've made progress.
Seizedpost is offline  
Old 07-18-16, 01:58 PM
  #2  
Slash5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 1,890
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 258 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Looking pretty good. You just missed the 53/39 chainring set from Nashbar for $8. It will be back again. Assuming 130 BCD.
If you want to use the Maxy you can mount it on the BB you have and measure to figure out what you need. I think a Maxy would look good on that bike.
Found this on a BB for a Sugino Maxy - 118 with a 1mm spacer on the drive side.
Slash5 is offline  
Old 07-18-16, 01:59 PM
  #3  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 530

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the advice, but I actually think it's 110 BCD.
Seizedpost is offline  
Old 07-18-16, 02:05 PM
  #4  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 530

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Hey, I have a brand new 118mm UN55 bottom bracket! I don't have a 1mm spacer but I can get one.

Where did you find this information? Is that 118mm for a symmetrical shaft, or one that's longer on the drive side?
Seizedpost is offline  
Old 07-19-16, 04:17 PM
  #5  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 530

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Slash5, I would be interested to know where you found that information. It's very helpful.

I test fit the Maxy crank with the 118 bottom bracket and no spacers. The chain rings just clear. The NDS crank arm, measured from the center of the pedal hole, is 12.8mm from the chainstay. The DS crank arm, measured the same way, is 11.5mm away. This is without torquing down crank bolts, so they would move a little closer, but it should give me an idea of how far off center the crank is. Based on these measurements I think a 0.7mm spacer would be best.
Seizedpost is offline  
Old 08-01-16, 11:21 AM
  #6  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 530

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The Sagres is done. I ended up using a 3N bottom bracket shaft.
I took it for a 10 mile test ride. It's comfortable, quiet, and fast. So far so good! Also it weighs 21 pounds, I guess lighter wheels/tires, no turkey levers, DT shifters, alloy chain rings, etc. added up.
Seizedpost is offline  
Old 08-01-16, 12:30 PM
  #7  
willydstyle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 654
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 146 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Damn, 21 lbs on a mid-level steel bike is amazing. Nice work!
willydstyle is offline  
Old 11-12-16, 08:39 AM
  #8  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 530

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Can anyone recommend a bell that would look appropriate on this bike? I'm not sure if the brass dome ones would fit with how low I have the stem. I've lowered it a little since taking that picture.
Thanks!
Seizedpost is offline  
Old 11-12-16, 08:52 AM
  #9  
Kevindale
Senior Member
 
Kevindale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 1,689

Bikes: 1980 Koga-Miyata Gentsluxe-S, 1998 Eddy Merckx Corsa 01, 1983 Tommasini Racing, 2012 Gulf Western CAAD10, 1980 Univega Gran Premio

Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 596 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Seizedpost View Post
Can anyone recommend a bell that would look appropriate on this bike? I'm not sure if the brass dome ones would fit with how low I have the stem. I've lowered it a little since taking that picture.
Thanks!
Not exactly a retro look per se, but minimalist and appropriate coloring:

https://usd.knog.com.au/oi-bike-bell.html
Kevindale is offline  
Old 11-12-16, 09:08 AM
  #10  
Dave Cutter
Senior Member
 
Dave Cutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: D'uh... I am a Cutter
Posts: 6,195

Bikes: '17 Access Old Turnpike Gravel bike, '14 Trek 1.1, '13 Cannondale CAAD 10, '98 CAD 2, R300

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1569 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Seizedpost View Post
Can anyone recommend a bell that would look appropriate on this bike? I'm not sure if the brass dome ones would fit with how low I have the stem. I've lowered it a little since taking that picture.
Thanks!
A beautiful bike. You did a great job! I love a nice bicycle restore. I can't keep my restores (N+1 rules apply in my home) but I do enjoy putting them back on the road. I keep pictures of my restored bikes.

I like retro bells on a retro bike! And... in my mind those mid-80's bikes used the old fashioned spring loaded Bbbbrrrring sounding bicycle bells. The ones that still sell for $5 (or a little more) in big box stores. I like the chrome plated ones.
Dave Cutter is offline  
Old 11-12-16, 01:40 PM
  #11  
Seizedpost
Bench vise user
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 530

Bikes: 2004 Orbea Marmaloda, 1982 S12-S LTD, 1956? Maino, 1985 Sagres

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 78 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks! I was looking at old style domed bells, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Sankuwen%C2%A...ct_top?ie=UTF8
I was concerned originally concerned about fit because of stem height, but I could just put it on the horizontal portion of the stem.

Not related to the bell, here's a more recent photo of the bike. After several hundred miles on potholed roads the repaired rear wheel is holding up. I replaced the original hardened brake pads allmost immediately after I took that first photo. I replaced the original saddle with a WTB Rocket V I had laying around, after discovering the hard way that I am not comfortable for long distance on the original saddle. Since this photo was taken, I replaced the original seatpost with a non-fluted one to stop water from getting in.
Seizedpost is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.