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NYMXer 08-15-16 06:27 AM

Wow, some really harsh replies from some of the members here. It's embarrassing to assume this is a troll and not really a new member with a sincere concern. I would give them the benefit of doubt until proven otherwise. Shame on those that attacked rather than offer a little help.
[MENTION=444777]chowshelly[/MENTION], a little cleaning with a wire brush and liquid wrench should free that rust up but since this was a pretty big concern for you, I would suggest that you take the bike to your local shop and let them do a complete check over and service. That will insure your safety and enjoyment of your new ride.

Oh, welcome to bike forums.net

rumrunn6 08-15-16 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by NYMXer (Post 18985590)
welcome to bike forums.net

:thumb:

chowshelly 08-15-16 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by NYMXer (Post 18985590)
Wow, some really harsh replies from some of the members here. It's embarrassing to assume this is a troll and not really a new member with a sincere concern. I would give them the benefit of doubt until proven otherwise. Shame on those that attacked rather than offer a little help.
[MENTION=444777]chowshelly[/MENTION], a little cleaning with a wire brush and liquid wrench should free that rust up but since this was a pretty big concern for you, I would suggest that you take the bike to your local shop and let them do a complete check over and service. That will insure your safety and enjoyment of your new ride.

Oh, welcome to bike forums.net

thanks for the tip!

seedsbelize 08-15-16 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Rollfast (Post 18985404)
I sense a SMARMINESS outbreak.


C'mon folks.

No snark there, only concern for my fellow man.

oddjob2 08-15-16 08:57 AM

Maybe [MENTION=1771]lotek[/MENTION] should make RUST a sticky thread before General Cycling Discussions

It's a common topic in multiple threads, a common concern among noobs, and the solutions and remedies are common, whether C&V, MTB, Beach Cruiser, and even if you're over 50. Think of the Gigabytes of storage saved!

Jean3n16 08-15-16 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 18984409)
RUST!!?? I don't see no rust.

That's Patina...man.

:thumb:

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Id get some navel jelly and a brush.

francophile 08-15-16 09:06 AM

Not an issue. That rattle can paint job needs to go anyway :D

RobbieTunes 08-15-16 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver1959 (Post 18984522)
The OP originally posted this in the framebuilders forum. Not the first time a poster has mistakenly thought that framebuilding was about bolting parts onto an existing frame. Obviously new to the game. I replied and suggested that this would be a better place to ask the question. Wow, was I wrong. I hope that Chowshelly ignores this particular reply. I also hope that Robbietunes has the decency to apologize.

As a certain VP once said....

KonAaron Snake 08-15-16 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 18986019)
As a certain VP once said....

Let me guess...this one?

We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a *part* of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe.

rootboy 08-15-16 10:25 AM

Dan Quayle?

:>

rootboy 08-15-16 10:30 AM

FWIW...which isn't much;

I have to admit, when I read Robbie's post, I was taken aback.
That was the first, and only, time I had heard him say anything like that.
You're normally so calm, even tempered and...well...kind, Robbie.

I just figured you were in a bad mood. Or it was said tongue-in-cheek.
I don't know. And don't much care at this point.
But it sure seemed out of character, to me.

But I aint gonna suggest you apologize. ;)

Kevindale 08-15-16 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 18986019)
As a certain VP once said....

Something about nattering nabobs of negativism? That would certainly fit the C&V forum. However, I think you're referring to a certain veep from Wyoming.

KonAaron Snake 08-15-16 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 18986119)
Dan Quayle?

:>

The one and only! He was a walking quotation.

rootboy 08-15-16 10:34 AM

really? I thought he was referring to Cheney. Though I didn't want to type that name.

Dan Quayle never said anything so salient and to the point as the Evil One.

up on two 08-15-16 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 18986136)
But I aint gonna suggest you apologize. ;)

It should happen without a suggestion.... that was almost a personal attack and at first, I thought that maybe he knew the OP and was just playing around but sort of figured it was his real response to the OP's question.

3alarmer 08-15-16 10:55 AM

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...****. :)

oddjob2 08-15-16 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 18986150)
The one and only! He was a walking quotation.

The bad speller is from Indiana

KonAaron Snake 08-15-16 11:19 AM

I think folks are having trouble following the flow here...

Robbie made a reference to a VP quote, likely that of Cheney.

To be a smart arse, I provided a quote from Dan Quayle...because I think it's a funny quote.

Someone else, speculating as to which VP Robbie meant, suggested Wyoming.

RB then referred to my quote as being Quayle...to which I agreed...followed by some qualitative commentary related to Cheney.

Bikerider007 08-15-16 12:02 PM

If you have the resources you should break the whole bike down and grease it and clean up. Then you will know if there are any real rust issues. Looks superficial but if it's there it could be elsewhere and old bikes usually have old grease. Unless seller serviced which is highly doubtful if the freewheel looks like that.

Its part of the vintage game, they usually require a good amount of elbow grease but the ride will be better.

Good luck.

RobbieTunes 08-15-16 12:12 PM

Yes, my reference was to Cheney, for the people who automatically assume I'm a jerk. So be it is exactly the point.

For those who may not have read clearly, go back and read my "offensive" and "abusive" reply, and interpret what you want. You already have, so no big deal. If you want to debate politics, send me a PM. I'm actually hoping for a coup by intelligent life from another planet.

1-If the question was from a troll, I simply asked him/her to stop it. "If" is the operative word. No offense there.
Trolls do come here and ask stuff to get a reaction. A non-troll should not be offended. 50/50 chance of trollship; it either is or isn't.

2-If not a troll: A person smart enough to go on eBay, pick out a used bike, and buy it via PayPal, then sign up for an account here, get signed in, and start a thread, that same person should be able to check out the pictures, and also ask a specific question, like "how do I get this rust off?" or "is this something I should worry about?" instead of "What should I do?"

One can only answer the question, "with what?...when?..why?" The questions "should I send it back?" "should I cancel my purchase?" are just as easily implied.

3-It's a used bike. If a person bought it, they should pay for it and wait for it to arrive, and ride it once it is satisfactory. Take the same time to ask specific questions about the issue of dissatisfaction. Even if it's a mistake, own it. Any implication the bike should be like new in that price range means the buyer should actually look at Walmart or Target.

People used to be accountable. If a US Navy ship runs aground, even if the captain is asleep at 2 am, the captain's career is over, period. Total accountability for the training and development of people who will drive the ship. We don't see that these days, on any side of the ideological spectrum; instead we see excuses. Excuses for taking financial risks that don't work out, excuses for failures in leadership that cost lives. Pick a side, same lack of accountability.

If I made a mistake in interpretation of a vague/broad question, so be it. Sorry, my bad, move on, but be clearer next time.
If I made a mistake buying a used bike that wasn't pristine, so be it. Been there, done that. I took it and called it a day.
If I want to ask what to do, I'll be specific as to what about. The OP, as well as others, may want to re-read and note.

Feel free to disagree, as many likely do. I don't give a Denali.

miamijim 08-15-16 12:15 PM

Link to eBay auction?

DiegoFrogs 08-15-16 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 18985517)
The faux horizontal dropout is an interesting solution to fixed chain gap, though a standard vertical dropout would have saved some weight. At least it has a drewing outline for the fixie/SS crowd.

This seemed to be normal on "Giant" built-in-Taiwan bikes of the mid-to-late 1980's. I had (still in my parents' garage attic) a Giant built Schwinn World Sport from 1986 that had the same DS dropout, and the other side was slotted all the way back, with the outer plates being stainless steel. I've seen it on a few other dropouts on various marque Giant-built bikes of the era. Ironically, I ground back 5 mm or so on the DS dropout to allow good chain tension on my first fixed gear. I still ride one sometimes, some 12 years later.

PhotoJoe 08-15-16 04:42 PM

Ahem.....

Let's leave the P&R talk in P&R. And the Smarminess in......uh.....well, anywhere but here.

Thanks.

repechage 08-15-16 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 18985517)
The faux horizontal dropout is an interesting solution to fixed chain gap, though a standard vertical dropout would have saved some weight. At least it has a drewing outline for the fixie/SS crowd.

Yeah, those dropout's I have found are on price point bikes where a quality forged dropout is too expensive. weaker steel but mo' meat and all is good.

To the original poster, not a killer nor something to try to unwind the sale over, poor packing and gorilla freight are much more probable of doing that.
The rust appears surface, remove, replace or remove, clean, lube and replace. Depending on the art, love, time and money equation result.
I have made much more sizable ebay buying errors. So it goes.

Probably gave him much more to keep the anxiety up.

Rollfast 08-21-16 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 18985887)
No snark there, only concern for my fellow man.


We's all growed up and too big for Radio Flyers now...


Shell shock could be setting in though, time for some R&R in Tokyo.


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