2017 Bianchi L'Eroica
So there is a 2017 version of the Bianchi L'Eroica bicycle. Anybody knows what has changed from the 2016 model? I thought this was going to be a limited production? |
My guess would be that the price has gone up, substantially, though if it's gone from being a single year model into regular production, the tooling has been paid off and the price should go down. However, the probebility of that happening is next to non-existent.
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That is above my price point, but it is gorgeous.
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L'Eroica certified bikes with 10 speed cogsets is stupid.
Bianchi building a steel bike with non aero-hoods, downtube shifters, etc is marketing. Pretty? Certainly! Do I want one? Never. |
Originally Posted by Wildwood
(Post 19066078)
L'Eroica certified bikes with 10 speed cogsets is stupid.
Bianchi building a steel bike with non aero-hoods, downtube shifters, etc is marketing. Pretty? Certainly! Do I want one? Never. |
Well, yeah, marketing, it's what companies do.
AFA the DT shifters, I still prefer them. Simple, nearly nothing to go wrong, and they work. Speaking of marketing, brifters were pure marketing. They were designed to make newbie riders more comfortable, since you didn't have to let go of the bars (scary!!), all the while being disguised as a performance enhancement so the customer's wimpiness could be rationalized. Same thing goes for indexed shifting, to a degree. Non aero hoods I'd have a hard time justifying from a performance standpoint; I guess those are pure nostalgia. |
any good steel bike on the market is welcome in my book
As far as 10-speed, they have to use components that are available to them. If they want a 7-speed, it's China-made bottom-line Shimano. Would 9-speed make any difference? This year I bought and stashed a spare Record 8-speed cassette because they were discontinued. Non-aero hoods are required to meet Eroica entry guidelines |
It appears to be exactly the same as the 2016 model, though there are a couple of things that I would change. Mine came with 23c tires which are too narrow for most of the L'Eroica routes. I put on 32's and that has made a huge difference!
Some people seem to think this bike is just some marketing gimmick, but Bianchi is building a bike that people want, as has been demonstrated by this bikes popularity. They are selling them as fast as they can be built. I still don't get why people love to hate on this bike so much. It is pretty, it rides beautifully, its Italian, whats not to love? I've got dozens of bikes from 1958 on to 2016 and I try to ride them all. This bike is a wonderful addition to the stable! https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com...anchi-leroica/ |
Originally Posted by bulldog1935
(Post 19066197)
any good steel bike on the market is welcome in my book
As far as 10-speed, they have to use components that are available to them. If they want a 7-speed, it's China-made bottom-line Shimano. Would 9-speed make any difference? This year I bought and stashed a spare Record 8-speed cassette because they were discontinued. Non-aero hoods are required to meet Eroica entry guidelines I also prefer to see it as a good steel bike and am glad it is available. Despite it's retro ness, it is IMO more practical for typical recreational riders than a plastic racing bike with 24spke wheels. |
My lugged Moser Forma would have been delivered with Mirage 8-sp gruppo in 1998.
I built up my frame with C-record friction 8-sp and non-aero Modolo levers, simply because that's the way I wanted it. But it would be welcome in Eroica, which is a celebration of cycling history. |
I'm sold with that 'electronica' groove in the vid. lol
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Originally Posted by bulldog1935
(Post 19066197)
any good steel bike on the market is welcome in my book
As far as 10-speed, they have to use components that are available to them. If they want a 7-speed, it's China-made bottom-line Shimano. Would 9-speed make any difference? This year I bought and stashed a spare Record 8-speed cassette because they were discontinued. Non-aero hoods are required to meet Eroica entry guidelines |
it makes sense, because I heard they were letting them in last year in spite of the existing rule
non-aero hoods are a lot better on brake cables |
Originally Posted by Oldairhead
(Post 19066211)
I still don't get why people love to hate on this bike so much.
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine
(Post 19066169)
Speaking of marketing, brifters were pure marketing. They were designed to make newbie riders more comfortable, since you didn't have to let go of the bars (scary!!), all the while being disguised as a performance enhancement so the customer's wimpiness could be rationalized. Same thing goes for indexed shifting, to a degree.
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Originally Posted by armstrong101
(Post 19066394)
I think the issue is why buy this bike, a replica, when you can have an "original" for a fraction of the cost.
He posted his detailed accounting, but he also had everything done 100% at his LBS. He spent a lot more than I would have considered for that particular bike. It came out nice and it all works, but he openly questioned why go to this trouble and expense when you can walk into a LBS, put your money down, and ride out. Doing it his way, his question was appropriate. We do it differently - we enjoy the building part, can get very cost-effective at the logistics and parts shopping. Some people don't have the skills or the interest, and would do better putting down their money and leaving with the L'Eroica. |
Originally Posted by Oldairhead
(Post 19066211)
It appears to be exactly the same as the 2016 model, though there are a couple of things that I would change. Mine came with 23c tires which are too narrow for most of the L'Eroica routes. I put on 32's and that has made a huge difference!
Some people seem to think this bike is just some marketing gimmick, but Bianchi is building a bike that people want, as has been demonstrated by this bikes popularity. They are selling them as fast as they can be built. I still don't get why people love to hate on this bike so much. It is pretty, it rides beautifully, its Italian, whats not to love? I've got dozens of bikes from 1958 on to 2016 and I try to ride them all. This bike is a wonderful addition to the stable! https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com...anchi-leroica/ |
Originally Posted by bulldog1935
(Post 19066434)
We do it differently - we enjoy the building part, can get very cost-effective at the logistics and parts shopping.
Some people don't have the skills or the interest, and would do better putting down their money and leaving with the L'Eroica. Personally, I certainly wouldn't want to ride a 2016 bike at an Eroica event, and I certainly wouldn't want to ride the Eroica Bianchi there either. |
from what I've heard, as many people on modern carbon ride along with the group without officially joining, as the number joined and on olmogado bikes - just to be part of the celebration
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I like these. Surprised they are doing another run. I saw it more as limited and part of the appeal like vintage.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 19066428)
Are you serious? I like brifters a lot, and lots of non-newbies get really benefit from them. They're not for everyone, but they're not useless as you seem to be implying.
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Originally Posted by Bikerider007
(Post 19066509)
I like these. Surprised they are doing another run. I saw it more as limited and part of the appeal like vintage.
They hit a market niche with good timing. Most of the people buying them are not planning to ride L'Eroica. They're people making a style and function choice. As I've mentioned on other threads, around here, I see a lot of healthy and athletic 20-somethings riding classic steel. |
I don't get the hate. Some people want to buy things new because they don't have the tools/space/time/knowledge to work on old things themselves, but still want something that is as pretty as a classic bike, and this fits the bill, IMO.
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It's a real pretty bike. It would be interesting if they offered it in two build kits: one for Eroica certified with friction shifters and exposed cables, and another with indexed DT 10v shifter system and aero cables and see which is more popular.
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Originally Posted by bulldog1935
(Post 19066537)
They hit a market niche with good timing. Most of the people buying them are not planning to ride L'Eroica. They're people making a style and function choice. As I've mentioned on other threads, around here, I see a lot of healthy and athletic 20-somethings riding classic steel.
20 years olds are buying as you can get many vintage mid range in the $200 or less range. Buying just about any new mid range would be out the budget for most kids unless they are serious riders and don't mind dropping the dough or saving. I can see our age 40+++ spending as it does have old school charm but with little maintenance or clean up since it's new. It crossed my mind at least once and I asked some questions but it did not call to me like some bikes do, very nice though. |
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