Help with model and year of Pegeout PA10
10-09-16, 02:18 PM
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Help with model and year of Pegeout PA10
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i have bought pegeout pa10 without wheeles and crankset. wheels was with rx100 hubs and ambrosio rims, cramkset was gipiemme dual sprint.
stuff i have on frame:
stem - havent any name on it, maybe AVA, you tell me if you know
handlebar - Cyclo Man Mod Rover Italy
Brake Levers - MAFAC Course 130
Brakes - MAFAC Racer
Derailleurs and Shifters - Simplex Criterium
i have search on peugeot catalogs Master Catalogues , Cycles Rétro-Peugeot but didnt find with same components and front host
the most similar is pa10e model of 1971 year
here is photos
i have bought pegeout pa10 without wheeles and crankset. wheels was with rx100 hubs and ambrosio rims, cramkset was gipiemme dual sprint.
stuff i have on frame:
stem - havent any name on it, maybe AVA, you tell me if you know
handlebar - Cyclo Man Mod Rover Italy
Brake Levers - MAFAC Course 130
Brakes - MAFAC Racer
Derailleurs and Shifters - Simplex Criterium
i have search on peugeot catalogs Master Catalogues , Cycles Rétro-Peugeot but didnt find with same components and front host
the most similar is pa10e model of 1971 year
here is photos
10-13-16, 06:17 AM
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Give them a bit, its still early and we haven't finished up our second cup of coffee. Sometimes it takes a few days for the marque specific experts to see the posts.
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10-13-16, 06:34 AM
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Odd little note - this is the ONLY non-Aztec-lugged Peugeot I can recall ever seeing with something other than a Nervex Professional or DuBois lugset. Those are Bocama model 14 pattern II according to the 1978 Bocama catalog 08 - 2VELO2VELO. It's also the only Peugeot I can recall seeing with bare top tube for cable clips but brazed-on gear housing stops on the downtube.
10-13-16, 06:41 AM
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Probably a 1974ish, as yours is missing a dt clamp on pump clip and any paint mark from one.
https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Broch...0Page%2015.jpg
https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Broch...0Page%2015.jpg
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10-13-16, 06:50 AM
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Looks very close to being a PR 10 from the early 70`s? Simplex rear drop outs?
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10-13-16, 07:32 AM
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1974 pa10.
Originally had a steel cottered crank and tubulars.
Simplex dropouts.
High tensile steel tubes.
Originally had a steel cottered crank and tubulars.
Simplex dropouts.
High tensile steel tubes.
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10-13-16, 01:52 PM
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Whether it is 71,72,73,74 or some other year, why does it matter? That model did not change that much from year to year.
10-13-16, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by oddjob2
Whether it is 71,72,73,74 or some other year, why does it matter? That model did not change that much from year to year.
thanks
so its 1974 pa10
10-13-16, 04:35 PM
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I would say it's a 73/74 based the ones I have seen it seems they only used those lugs for a year or so around this time. This was the high point of the bike boom so makers often sourced parts like lugs from secondary suppliers to meet production, so it is very likely you won't find a exact match looking at there spec sheets or catalogs.
10-13-16, 05:30 PM
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Your PA 10 would have had Normandy QR, HF hubs laced to Mavic tubular rims. As Grand Bois said, there would have been a Stronglight 3 pin cottered steel crankset but sometimes they would have a Stronglight 49D alloy instead. The saddle was probably Ideale with the steel Ideale micro adjust clip. The freewheel would likely have been an Atom 5 speed.
Your PA 10 would have had Normandy QR, HF hubs laced to Mavic tubular rims. As Grand Bois said, there would have been a Stronglight 3 pin cottered steel crankset but sometimes they would have a Stronglight 49D alloy instead. The saddle was probably Ideale with the steel Ideale micro adjust clip. The freewheel would likely have been an Atom 5 speed.
10-14-16, 07:18 AM
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Mine originally had a no-name steel crank with with Simplex adapters and rings. I have never seen one with a Stronglight 49D. The PR10 got that one. The hubs were crappy Normandy Sport.
10-14-16, 08:30 AM
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During the late 60's and early 70's most of the French bike makers produced amateur racing models. The PA-10 was Peugeot's model. The Gitane Interclub was their version.
They came with alloy tubular tire wheels and some of them had alloy bars. The rest of the components: Simplex Prestige derailleurs, MAFAC Racer center pull brakes, Normandy QR hubs, cast aluminum stems, steel seatposts, steel cottered cranks and so on.
These bikes had frames made of plain carbon steel tubing. In some cases they used lighter gage tubes than equivalent entry level models with steel clincher rims.
The main differences were the forks had rakes like those used on racing models, the cranks had closer ratio chainrings than the 42-52T (36-52T, 40-52T) "alpine" gearing used on standard models plus they had smaller freewheels - 14-24T or 14-26T.
The bike is question was made in the early 70's (72-74). By that time, Nervex Professional lugs were no longer being produced and were being replaced with Nervex DuBoise model lugs. Nervex lugs were more expensive than the Bocoma lugs on this bike. Also, during the bike boom components of all kinds were frequently substituted for what ever was available.
Peugeot was probably the best at keeping the bikes that they made close to published specs.
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They came with alloy tubular tire wheels and some of them had alloy bars. The rest of the components: Simplex Prestige derailleurs, MAFAC Racer center pull brakes, Normandy QR hubs, cast aluminum stems, steel seatposts, steel cottered cranks and so on.
These bikes had frames made of plain carbon steel tubing. In some cases they used lighter gage tubes than equivalent entry level models with steel clincher rims.
The main differences were the forks had rakes like those used on racing models, the cranks had closer ratio chainrings than the 42-52T (36-52T, 40-52T) "alpine" gearing used on standard models plus they had smaller freewheels - 14-24T or 14-26T.
The bike is question was made in the early 70's (72-74). By that time, Nervex Professional lugs were no longer being produced and were being replaced with Nervex DuBoise model lugs. Nervex lugs were more expensive than the Bocoma lugs on this bike. Also, during the bike boom components of all kinds were frequently substituted for what ever was available.
Peugeot was probably the best at keeping the bikes that they made close to published specs.
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10-14-16, 11:32 AM
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It's a bit overweight, but still a nice riding bike. I like it a lot, otherwise I wouldn't have paid stupid money for the NOS TA bottle cage and Peugeot bottle. I have a PX10LE from the same year, but I prefer to ride the PA. It's a smoother ride and less twitchy.
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