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Old 10-20-16, 03:17 AM
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Raleigh Comp GS

Seven yrs I've been looking for a Competition GS. Always too far away an not affordable shipping etc. Missed a couple that were within driving distance. So I bought a Super Course instead. Drove a long way, really bad buying experience with an indifferent owner....suspect that the bike was stolen at least once in its long life. I gathered up the period SunTour stuff and a couple of Brooks seats, but I just couldn't get into a restoration of this bike.

Then remarkably...a GS turned up in Craigslist some 60 miles away. Listed as a 'garage find'....I made arrangements to see it. Ya know what I'm thinking....figured he paid $25 at some garage sale and now was trying to get $600 to make a big profit. He asked me if I wanted him to oil it and get it ride-able....I said NO!...leave it as is.

Turns out this guy had it since '82/'83 and bought it from a guy at a swap meet standing with a cardboard sign that read:BIKE FOR SALE. He rode it for about four months and realizing he had a fine bike, feared it would be stolen. So he hung it up in his dad's garage and there it's been all this time. We got on really well and I talked him way down on the price, promising to keep the bike and send him pics. He paid $180 for the bike back in the day.

The serial says it was made in '80 and at Worksop...even though the head tube says Nottingham. According to the info I read, Worksop closed that yr sometime and everything moved to Nottingham, even though the serials were coded Worksop. So I really don't have a clue where mine was made....

Anyway, it's missing the toe clips and the Brooks seat(which I have). Oh yeah, the hoods on the brake levers are gone....that's gonna cost me.

I'll start taking pics and post...it's Pearl Silver....never saw a GS that wasn't black. I think I'll like this color all polished up. Paint has got some very faint rust coming through in a couple of places that can be easily polished out, I'm hoping. Trying to think of the safest way to do that with an original Raleigh paint job? The rest is just a matter of polishing the metal bits, oiling and reassembly. Great to find an unmolested original bike like this!

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Old 10-20-16, 05:34 AM
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Rust on paint

Turtle wax chrome polish might work, non abrasive.
Barkeepers Friend is non-abrasive, use a wet sponge.
WD40 on a paper towel. Just don't hit the decals with it.
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I'll be first to say, pics, pics, pics, we need pictures of this one. it sounds like you scored bit time with this one. Lots of Competition love around here.

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Things to think about when asking yourself - Should I Paint My Bicycle?
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Old 10-20-16, 11:31 AM
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Good ideas there, thanks...WD40 on a microfiber cloth might be just the ticket.

I have that site linked already....unbelievable info in there. I may string the frame as per his instructions...just to see where it is.

He talks about "cleaning wax"...I'm not sure if that's light paint polishing compound with minimal grit?

No, it's never going to be repainted. Pics will come shortly. The bike is breathtakingly original except for the seat. Was scouring eBay last night for the brake lever hoods....like I thought, expensive and questionable what fits perfectly.

I want to replace the brake cables...where's a good place/source for those? Who makes a gum side tire that actually wears well and not just sold for 'period' looks?

It has something I've never seen before....these tire scrapers that hang off the brake attachment bolt. Said to 'catch' thorns and glass bits as you ride? They look like they have been on there since the bike was new. I'll leave them on if they are Raleigh, probably take them off if not.

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Old 10-20-16, 10:05 PM
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So I bought a Mother's kit that has clay bars, a lubricant, a pad and synthetic wax for the last stage. I think this might do the trick. I'll take some before and after pics.

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Old 10-20-16, 10:12 PM
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A whole day and not one picture snapped?
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Old 10-20-16, 10:35 PM
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Patience Grasshopper.....it rained here all day and my phone takes lousy indoor pics.

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For brake hoods presume you have Weinmann centerpulls on there, hoods that fit those pretty common, some even say Weinmann on them, but I would look for a pair of the "Carlton" hoods that came with many Raleighs, they are made of much harder material than the gum rubber hoods that seem to decompose from just exposure to air! Carltons come in white and black,,,
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Panaracer makes some gumwall tires as does Compass. People around here can't say enough nice things about the Compass tires.
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Panaracer makes some gumwall tires as does Compass. People around here can't say enough nice things about the Compass tires.
No they don't. They make tires with tan sidewalls that are vaguely reminiscent of true gumwalls.

These old Specialized Nimbus tires are true gumwalls. They are crispy and cracked, the way gumwalls always eventually became.

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I have an un-restored early SC with the white Carlton hoods. Have to agree they seem more durable than the gum. However, the ad lit for the GS all showed the darker gum hoods. I just pulled the trigger on some from the bay, but had to buy the levers too...hoods look correct. If I screwed up, expensive mistake...or the bike gets Campy levers I guess...lol.

Dia compe and Crane Creek both have tan, non-aero hoods readily available...but they don't look like gum though....more like plastic. From what I read, Dia compe(Japanese) was sold with SunTour stuff. And Weinmann formally made in Switzerland/Belgium, moved to the US, eventually folded and Crane Creek Cycles bought out what was left. The GS brakes are side pull, but I don't see anything unusual about the levers except they're drilled.

Thanks for the tire recommendations! What about a source for brake cables that look like the OE? Pics tomorrow...the bike has that wretched foam crap on the handle bars. I'm going back with period looking cork or whatever.....don't care at all for that foam adventure.

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Old 10-24-16, 10:10 AM
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No they don't. They make tires with tan sidewalls that are vaguely reminiscent of true gumwalls.

These old Specialized Nimbus tires are true gumwalls. They are crispy and cracked, the way gumwalls always eventually became.

I'm striking out with the gumwall Nimbus....can't find them in 27"....only BMX type tires. Those tires in the pic are just the ticket if they still make them. Don't know how durable they are though?

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Those tires are very old and no longer made. They are 700cX38mm.
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Pics finally!

Here are some pics of the bike...sorry for the delay. Life and all that stuff.

Two pics of note;closeup of the representative rust on the seat tube. Clay bar just made the area shiny like glass...didn't do much for the rust. Going to try cleaning wax next. The other pic shows the tire scrapers...maybe they are common, but I've never seen them before on a vintage bike.

Yeah I know, shouldn't have the kickstand...it's coming off.

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OK, wouldn't post my pics because:Your submission could not be processed because a security token was missing.
If this occurred unexpectedly, please inform the administrator and describe the action you performed before you received this error.

WTH??

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The tire scrapers/flint catchers/tire savers used to be fairly common where I come from because they were effective against goatheads. I have some French and some Italian vintage examples stashed away. I have never seen them on a modern bike.
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The tire scrapers/flint catchers/tire savers used to be fairly common where I come from because they were effective against goatheads. I have some French and some Italian vintage examples stashed away. I have never seen them on a modern bike.
Interesting....but did they come on any factory bikes like the Raleigh GS....was it an option, or a bike dealer accessory?

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Interesting....but did they come on any factory bikes like the Raleigh GS....was it an option, or a bike dealer accessory?
Not OEM on any Raleigh model back when, but a common accessory.

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Not OEM on any Raleigh model back when, but a common accessory.

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For the life of me...I can't remember seeing them as an accessory in any bike shop I frequented in college. But then again, I don't remember flats being a problem on or around campus.

We have goat heads here or as we call them, puncture weed. I actually have some in my back alley my neighbors won't kill. Nasty, nasty tenacious weed.

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For your photos, are you hosting them somewhere (Flickr, Photobucket, etc.) and then linking to the hosted site? If not, try that.
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Tire-savers used to be a frequently seen accessory, usually on a display card near the cash register. When I was a kid, all the bike shops in Roanoke, Virginia sold them, and to my knowledge, there were no goathead thorns, but there were lots of broken beer bottles and pointy bits of gravel. I had them mounted to the brake bolts on my Batavus. I remember seeing a set attached to the fenders of the Motobecane a guy named Rick used to ride Bikecentennial - one mounted at the front/trailing edge of the front fender, the other mounted near the bottom bracket and the chainstay bridge. They helped.
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For your photos, are you hosting them somewhere (Flickr, Photobucket, etc.) and then linking to the hosted site? If not, try that.
No I am not. I was trying to post from my PC....do they have to be hosted somewhere?

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Tire-savers used to be a frequently seen accessory, usually on a display card near the cash register. When I was a kid, all the bike shops in Roanoke, Virginia sold them, and to my knowledge, there were no goathead thorns, but there were lots of broken beer bottles and pointy bits of gravel. I had them mounted to the brake bolts on my Batavus. I remember seeing a set attached to the fenders of the Motobecane a guy named Rick used to ride Bikecentennial - one mounted at the front/trailing edge of the front fender, the other mounted near the bottom bracket and the chainstay bridge. They helped.
Wow...maybe they were near the cash register back in the day and I just spaced them. If punctures would have been a problem, I'm sure I would have asked about products to help.

Now when my kids were biking in the 90's, puncture weeds were everywhere and we used slime, Kevlar inserts etc. I had a Pit Bull that got a hold of a Kevlar tube insert. I'd say it was a draw...neither side 'won', but the insert was not really usable after that.

Leaning more toward leaving the scrapers on now....nice conversation pieces if I can get them cleaned up.

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Trying pics...again!

Hopefully, this will work.

Raleigh Competition GS by Realshep | Photobucket

How are photos actually embedded into the post body, then?


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