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Darth Lefty 10-26-16 03:14 PM

World record biggest shift
 
I was clicking around other people's links and came across this:

Originally Posted by osteoclast (Post 16337022)
Have a look at Sheldon Brown's multi-range gearing: 51/28 with 12-24 FW. Anyone do this?

More here and here
Gear Theory for Bicyclists
My O.T.B. - Only The Best

This is a really big shift! 23 teeth. Obviously it's possible to install such a shift but how well could the upshift work?

The biggest shift on most common modern bikes is the 16 teeth between 50-34 on a compact. The MTB doubles have a bigger ratio shift at 36/22 but the number of teeth is smaller, 14.

SRAM has a new group out for E-bikes, it's the same range as an 11-speed MTB but has 8 speeds and bigger shifts. The shifts are uneven and I guessed the reason was to control the number of teeth between the gears. The upper shifts are all 8 teeth.
https://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/p...block-cassette
The Eagle 12-speed cassette also has a final shift of 8 teeth from 42 to 50.

What's the biggest shift you've seen? In ratio or teeth, at either end. Teeth are more impressive, I think.

merziac 10-26-16 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 19150094)
I was clicking around other people's links and came across this:

More here and here
Gear Theory for Bicyclists
My O.T.B. - Only The Best

This is a really big shift! 23 teeth. Obviously it's possible to install such a shift but how well could the upshift work?

The biggest shift on most common modern bikes is the 16 teeth between 50-34 on a compact. The MTB doubles have a bigger ratio shift at 36/22 but the number of teeth is smaller, 14.

SRAM has a new group out for E-bikes, it's the same range as an 11-speed MTB but has 8 speeds and bigger shifts. The shifts are uneven and I guessed the reason was to control the number of teeth between the gears. The upper shifts are all 8 teeth.
https://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/p...block-cassette
The Eagle 12-speed cassette also has a final shift of 8 teeth from 42 to 50.

What's the biggest shift you've seen? In ratio or teeth, at either end. Teeth are more impressive, I think.

Not sure exactly what you are asking but think I get the drift, here's 24,38,52 up front, and I think 12, 38 out back, maybe 36 9 speed Ultegra with Merz triple DA AX no close ups at the moment.

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Darth Lefty 10-26-16 03:35 PM

Biggest tooth gap and/or biggest ratio of a single shift.

Total range of derailleur gears has gone bonkers with the current Shimano MTB 33-speeds which have 6.6:1 overall. I think the only things that beat that have a third shifter.

merziac 10-26-16 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 19150140)
Biggest tooth gap and/or biggest ratio of a single shift.

Total range of derailleur gears has gone bonkers with the current Shimano MTB 33-speeds which have 6.6:1 overall. I think the only things that beat that have a third shifter.

So from 24 to 52 on the front = 28?

T-Mar 10-26-16 03:56 PM

Back in the 1960s there was a gearing fanatic by the name of Chuck Harris who made his own derailleurs, chain rings and cogs. His favourite personal set-up was a 13-17-26-34-42T freewheel combined with 26-44-68T chain rings.

Darth Lefty 10-26-16 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 19150200)
Back in the 1960s there was a gearing fanatic by the name of Chuck Harris who made his own derailleurs, chain rings and cogs. His favourite personal set-up was a 13-17-26-34-42T freewheel combined with 26-44-68T chain rings.

That's 24 teeth. Fascinating guy! This says he passed in 2012
https://www.facebook.com/Chuck-Harri...4695303248672/
Chuck Harris at the Ohio City Bicycle CoOp
http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.web/img/CH/CHbike.jpg

DrIsotope 10-26-16 06:46 PM

68-13! Jinkies! If you had some sort of Superman legs, that would have to be near 50mph @ 90rpm... on a steep hill, or behind a semi, that is.

Jeff Wills 10-26-16 10:00 PM

Well, my recumbents have 24-42-52 triples. The Shimano FD-R443 front derailleur handles the upshift pretty well, but it's a heck of a jump. It's kind of like spin-spin-spin-shift-grind-grind. Best done when the hill's flattened out.

It's hard to see, but both bikes are pictured on the http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...r-gugie-2.html thread.

We usually use the 42 tooth rings for cruising and the 52 tooth rings for zooming. If we need to drop to the 24 tooth, well, we really need it. The missus and I have climbed 17 percent grades carrying touring loads. Pedaling at 3mph is no fun, but it beats getting off and pushing.

jamesdak 10-26-16 10:18 PM

And here I thought my 34/53 was a big jump. :o

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/163817821.jpg

prathmann 10-26-16 10:30 PM

Biggest single jump on any of my bikes is the 42 - 60t (18 teeth) on my Bike Friday. Works ok but I tend to stay on the big ring most of the time.

Lascauxcaveman 10-26-16 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by jamesdak (Post 19150833)
And here I thought my 34/53 was a big jump. :o

That's pretty impressive, using unmodified equipment. What FD is that? How well does it handle the jump?

Darth Lefty 10-26-16 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by DrIsotope (Post 19150527)
68-13! Jinkies! If you had some sort of Superman legs, that would have to be near 50mph @ 90rpm... on a steep hill, or behind a semi, that is.

And 71 links of chain wrap

rhm 10-27-16 05:32 AM

The crank on my Holdworth has 27t and 50t rings. Upshifts are not a problem, but I had some trouble with downshifts for a while; the chain would miss the little ring on the way down. A chain catcher solved that. My Squarebuilt has a similar setup, but 27t-47t.

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D550/ry%3D400/

jamesdak 10-27-16 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 19150879)
That's pretty impressive, using unmodified equipment. What FD is that? How well does it handle the jump?

It's a Dura Ace but I don't remember which model. It's actually my best shifting front setup. The ramp technology on these rings is amazing.

verktyg 10-27-16 06:28 AM

Many French touring bikes came with 13 or 14-26T freewheels and 50 or 52-26T chainrings. Long arm Huret derailleurs were designed to handle that kind of spread.

They didn't work that well on the "Alpine" gearing that was popular during the Bike Boom: 14-28, 30 or 32T FWs and 52-42T chainrings.

verktyg :50:

Chas.

Darth Lefty 10-27-16 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by verktyg (Post 19151045)
Many French touring bikes came with 13 or 14-26T freewheels and 50 or 52-26T chainrings. Long arm Huret derailleurs were designed to handle that kind of spread.

We're up to 26 teeth!


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