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Old 10-30-16, 10:13 AM
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Meet Mr Old Fella (1938 CCM)

I posted about this bike several months ago but only recently got it into the basement to work on it. My only objective was to get it rideable again; that part was surprisingly easy!

Anyway: obligatory before picture:


After its maiden ride today:


There's a bunch more detail shots here:
38 Ccm Cleaned Up Story by Mark Kaczmarczyk (markk900) | Photobucket

Overall though, its rideable with only one issue - the pedal hole for the crank on the chainring side is either slightly cross threaded or bent - the new/old pedals (English, maybe Phillips) I put on to replace the hideous generic japanese pedals that were on there went on fine but one is definitely off perpendicular by a bit;

Not going to do anything cosmetic; now starts the long search for period or original bits to replace the obviously incorrect saddle; handlebars; wheels, tires. Also looking for CCM chainring bolts to fit as there is one missing (why on almost every CCM I have seen, in person or online, is at least one of those bolts missing?)
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Old 10-30-16, 10:22 AM
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Good to see old bikes given another chance.
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Interesting bike, nice find! I'm inclined to think the wobble you feel in the pedal is caused by a bent crank arm. It takes very little bend to get that uneven feeling. That's a pretty easy fix.
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With the rear facing dropouts that would pass for one of those messenger bikes the kids rode in the teens and twenties.

That will be an awesome bike when you get it rolling well!
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Wow - CCM had a great head badge in 1938.
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Nice 1938 CCM Road Racer in a factory custom colour.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
Nice 1938 CCM Road Racer in a factory custom colour.
+1. The rear forks make me think this bike may have started life as a racer. The frame looks too light to be roadster related.
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ccm

Some of these bikes were Reynolds plain gauge, I had a Flyer, The Sports Museum In Van. BC has Torcy Pedens old CCm
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Originally Posted by markk900 View Post

Overall though, its rideable with only one issue - the pedal hole for the crank on the chainring side is either slightly cross threaded or bent - the new/old pedals (English, maybe Phillips) I put on to replace the hideous generic japanese pedals that were on there went on fine but one is definitely off perpendicular by a bit;

Not going to do anything cosmetic; now starts the long search for period or original bits to replace the obviously incorrect saddle; handlebars; wheels, tires. Also looking for CCM chainring bolts to fit as there is one missing (why on almost every CCM I have seen, in person or online, is at least one of those bolts missing?)
There were 2 types. One threaded flush to the surface of the ring and the other type were longer and had nuts. edit looked at pics, you need long ones with bolts. Think I've got two. Your stem is correct. The bars are odd but you can find them.

Honestly, I don't think you can find original rims with rubber. I know at least 5 guys with the rims and none of them are rideable. Original hubs were Philips. I think I have a correct rear brakeset if you're interested.

Bars are upper right. They are narrow at top and flare out quickly.
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I would love to make a coffee run on a bike like that.
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Stylish rake+stance.
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Originally Posted by BigChief View Post
+1. The rear forks make me think this bike may have started life as a racer. The frame looks too light to be roadster related.
It was definitely a "racer" in the same way as many of today's road bikes, but the true racer was the "Flyer"....you should see how thin the stays on that are!
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Originally Posted by lee kenney View Post
Some of these bikes were Reynolds plain gauge, I had a Flyer, The Sports Museum In Van. BC has Torcy Pedens old CCm
Cool - hope to get to Van again to visit friends and will stop by.
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Originally Posted by clubman View Post
There were 2 types. One threaded flush to the surface of the ring and the other type were longer and had nuts. edit looked at pics, you need long ones with bolts. Think I've got two. Your stem is correct. The bars are odd but you can find them.

Honestly, I don't think you can find original rims with rubber. I know at least 5 guys with the rims and none of them are rideable. Original hubs were Philips. I think I have a correct rear brakeset if you're interested.

Bars are upper right. They are narrow at top and flare out quickly.
If you are willing to part with the two bolts let me know - one is missing completely and the other looks like the second type you describe- it seems to be threaded into the chainring and flush. Perhaps that is what I am interpreting as missing? It's the one closest to the crank arm so perhaps they used the "no nut" type there?
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow View Post
I would love to make a coffee run on a bike like that.
That sounds like a plan!
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CCM is Canadian, right? (I remember their dirt bikes (motorcycles) in the 1970's, those and the CanAm) I was wondering what degree the headtube and seattube are. I love the deep angles on both of cycles of that period. Are you going to keep it a single speed? Are there Canadian period components? Very nice bike.
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow View Post
I would love to make a coffee run on a bike like that.
Fortunately the bike didn't fall into the hands of another hipster...
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Originally Posted by Meathorse View Post
Fortunately the bike didn't fall into the hands of another hipster...
" Lighten up Francis! "
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CCM is Canadian, right? (I remember their dirt bikes (motorcycles) in the 1970's, those and the CanAm) I was wondering what degree the headtube and seattube are. I love the deep angles on both of cycles of that period. Are you going to keep it a single speed? Are there Canadian period components? Very nice bike.
CCM is indeed Canadian (Canada Cycle and Motor - a very old manufacturer). The CCM motorcycles in the 70s were Clews Competition Machinery, so not the same company - that one was English.

The bike was always single speed, though the rear wheel now is a coaster brake which is incorrect. As to finding Canadian period components, there's always hope! I did find a NOS Dunlop Speedster tire - but only one so far. And there are fans reproducing grips, so that I can find. Seat should be a Brooks so I will find something suitable (though for me suitable always includes cheap!). We shall see!
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Fortunately the bike didn't fall into the hands of another hipster...
I am definitely NOT a hipster, but I like bikes and I like coffee....
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Nice, it'd be fun to see the lug work up a bit closer. I've visited that CCM dedicated website before. Helpful.
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I am definitely NOT a hipster, but I like bikes and I like coffee....
But do you ride your bike to get coffee?

Now, back to that killer CCm... do the rear drop outs have a place for adjusting screws ?
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I think you're right about those hex nuts not clearing the crankarm. I'll sent you one of each type NS use some loctite on the close ones. They often came with mudguards as well. Here's a 37 frame, NOS.

And here's a crank where the hex nuts clear the arms. Restortation and custom hex nuts by Tony Beeks of Toronto
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But do you ride your bike to get coffee?

Now, back to that killer CCm... do the rear drop outs have a place for adjusting screws ?
I think there is a close up in the "story" link, but yes there are draw type adjusters for those dropouts.
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I think you're right about those hex nuts not clearing the crankarm. I'll sent you one of each type NS use some loctite on the close ones. They often came with mudguards as well. Here's a 37 frame, NOS.

And here's a crank where the hex nuts clear the arms. Restortation and custom hex nuts by Tony Beeks of Toronto
Stunning bikes....Are you sure the 37 is a Road Racer - the forks have forged dropouts. I thought the Road Racer always came with stamped.

And the pinstripes are very different....still - NOS is incredible.

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