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The best laid plans of Mice and Polo Bicycles

Old 11-05-16, 08:37 AM
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The best laid plans of Mice and Polo Bicycles

Bikeville/Via was having a relocation auction and I went expecting to come home with, maybe, a water bottle, or a poster. There was only one bike I was vaguely interested in, and not enough to bid what I thought it would go for, especially since I bought something fairly special recently (teaser) and which was the first bike I'd purchased in a LONG time, at least by my standards.

I'm sure we all see where this is going.

I ended up with one bike (not photo'd) I bought as a part out and picked these up because...well...because. I am really running out of room and am in dire need of a purge. I regret not going to T-town at this point!

Was there a Phase One? I'm assuming Phase 2 was lumpy gravy.

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Old 11-05-16, 08:42 AM
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This was an impulse buy. Apparently the bike was built in a shop in Chicago, and Curtis fell in love with it. The acquisition was actually a pretty cool story. I'm not sure why this appealed to me...it's so ugly that it makes celeste look good...but it's just such a weird survivor that I took it home. Notice the insanely steep fork rake. 24 inch tubular tires. It would definitely make the quickest handling hipster city fixie in history.



















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I am not into those bikes. I am not into those bikes. I am not into those bikes.


Perhaps if I say it enough, I'll believe it.


Probably not.


That 24" wheeler has got me.
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Another oldie that appears to have been cared for.
Certainly easy to understand the need for N+1 given a 531 Rudge.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I am not into those bikes. I am not into those bikes. I am not into those bikes.


Perhaps if I say it enough, I'll believe it.


Probably not.


That 24" wheeler has got me.
Right? I have no idea why I like it, but I do. Also INSANELY light.
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Lulz @ that gear inch...
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I love that Rudge, it is even my size.
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I double love that Rudge!
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
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That 24" wheeler has got me.
Somehow, I just don't 'get' what makes it alluring.....
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
I double love that Rudge!
Originally Posted by bwilli88
I love that Rudge, it is even my size.
Thanks gents.

Admittedly this joke is terrible, but I want to take a photo of it next to the Vanilla.

Vanilla Rudge (just need a Strawberry).


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What year would you say the Rudge is? It looks very much like the 62 Rudge Reliant I have. Big differences in drivetrain and tubing with mine. Was yours an original 3 speed or could it be built 3 ways depending on what the co. Wanted ?
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
What year would you say the Rudge is? It looks very much like the 62 Rudge Reliant I have. Big differences in drivetrain and tubing with mine. Was yours an original 3 speed or could it be built 3 ways depending on what the co. Wanted ?
57'.

I'm not really sure on the second part...it's outside my area. Not much available on line about them either. I found one photo of a bike labeled phase 3 path finder with a Benelux drive train. Also saw some photos of one like mine...and compared to a lenton.

Nlerner, rhm and photogravity have expertise and could probably answer. I'm sure others here as well, but those are the guys I think of when I think path racer.
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I'm glad to see you're branching out into more kinds of bikes. I adore the Rudge. I've always had an affection for that brand, for some reason.

I'd love to test ride both. The little bike is sure to be fun, and the Rudge might be, too. Maybe you can finally develop an appreciation for IGHs.

But yeah, you gotta get rid of some of those redundant racing bikes. And you can get lots of cash for them.
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I'm glad to see you're branching out into more kinds of bikes. I adore the Rudge. I've always had an affection for that brand, for some reason.

I'd love to test ride both. The little bike is sure to be fun, and the Rudge might be, too. Maybe you can finally develop an appreciation for IGHs.

But yeah, you gotta get rid of some of those redundant racing bikes. And you can get lots of cash for them.
That's exactly what I thought you'd say! I'm actually as repetitive in touring bikes, if not more so.

You have no idea how much restraint I showed at the auction! There was a looked brand spanking new Schwinn town and country tandem, and a Schwinn Paramount tandem, that both went VERY low...and I resisted. There was also a pretty cool bike from the 1890s that was outside of my knowledge range, but which was hard to resist.

Anyway, here's a photo of one of the Grubb polo bikes that informed the Mark Mattei build (maybe even less rake):


Very purpose driven bike, albeit a purpose I'll never have need for! You can tell even from just wheeling it how responsove/twitchy this sucker is. Apparently there were actually Polo designed bikes...not just fixied Varsitys.
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So what is the new location, and do you think it's a good one? It's hard to imagine Curtis moving out of that place. I bet it's taking months to get everything moved.
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So what is the new location, and do you think it's a good one? It's hard to imagine Curtis moving out of that place. I bet it's taking months to get everything moved.
Somewhere and broad...probably south. I think he'll do OK regardless of where he is, and the south street broad area only has one shop, and it's a serious crap hole with dishonest people (with a very bad rep in other ways, bit I digress). Honestly...I think he might do better there at this point. Probably somewhat easier parking, an active bike community with the right demographic and the people who make a special effort to find him I'm sure still will. I think it's going to be a win.

I'm sure it's not going to be easy for him. The auction was a start, but barely a dent!
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The condorino bars are the perfect touch for that weird little polo bike.
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The condorino bars are the perfect touch for that weird little polo bike.
They really are! So darn narrow as well...this really would make an interesting fixie city bike.
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I suspect the last time I was there was about 12 years ago, but wouldn't that be just a ten minute walk from the present location?

I wasn't a serious bike-nut, or into older stuff, at the time, but I did think it was a neat place.

How easy is it to find 24 inch tubulars?
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I suspect the last time I was there was about 12 years ago, but wouldn't that be just a ten minute walk from the present location?

I wasn't a serious bike-nut, or into older stuff, at the time, but I did think it was a neat place.

How easy is it to find 24 inch tubulars?
It depends on how far up broad he goes...I'd guess he's thinking near passayunk, will have to ask. Probably a 15-20 minute walk from there?

I'd imagine 24 inch tubulars would be a serious challenge, but I've also never looked!

Edit - just looked, apparently vittoria makes a junior line; they exist.

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I'd like to hear about how riding that little thing is. See how it works on a few errands and report back, OK?
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I'd like to hear about how riding that little thing is. See how it works on a few errands and report back, OK?
I'm slightly terrified of this bike...I have very little experience with fixed, and this sucker is gonna be TWITCHY. Will get insurance paid up first

On the flip side, I'd love to see you pull it out at t-town!
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Why is it a polo bike? I've seen YouTube of bike polo on tennis courts, but did it go back that far?
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Somehow, I just don't 'get' what makes it alluring.....
I really don't, either, but for some reason, I really like it.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Why is it a polo bike? I've seen YouTube of bike polo on tennis courts, but did it go back that far?
I'm no expert on this, but apparently it goes back to at least the mid-70s when the photo above was taken. I think it's specifically designed with tight turning radius and quick bouts of acceleration in mind. The narrow bars probably help keep you from getting entangled with others.

According to this the grass variant, which I believe is likely what this was designed for, goes back to the late 1800s!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_polo

Sort of cool having this obscure purpose driven bike. It's pretty nice tubing, whatever it is.


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