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Gipiemme Exploit
Hi, can anyone provide insight into the Gipiemme Exploit? When it was available? Compatibility with cranks? Etc. From what I have been able to determine this was a mid 1980's derailleur group. I have a 1986 Raleigh custom order (red with black chain / seat stays and fork, Reynolds 531 P tubing) that is all Gipiemme Chrono Special with Exploit derailleurs. Also has Gipiemme indexing shifters (underside of shifter is marked as Campy). The freewheel is an Gipiemme alloy unit. The bike is incredibly light!
Thx! DB |
Sounds neat. How about some pics and a road report?
I've been slowly gathering up circa mid- 80's Gipiemme bits mixed with Campy Triomphe for a Basso. The style for both marques in that era are blocky, hard edged cool. That Exploit rear derailleur you have is clean lined vs. the Triomphe. Sorry if I'm only talking of the aesthetics as I've yet to finish building the Basso. BTW: Curious if your bike is complete with Gipiemme pedals, what type? Was there ever an Exploit pedal? |
I 've seen those before.....
IIRC, they have a cool dark anodized finish and ver geometric shapes with sharp edges, giving them a very modern slick look. I think they still sell for quite reasonable prices at eBay when they pop up...... |
Rebranded Camapgnolo index levers would put it no earlier than 1987 and they could even be 1990s. It should be fairly easy to get an idea of the era based on whether the levers are Syncro style (1987-1988), Syncro II style (1989-1991) or post Syncro II style (1992+).
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Originally Posted by crank_addict
(Post 19256007)
Sounds neat. How about some pics and a road report?
I've been slowly gathering up circa mid- 80's Gipiemme bits mixed with Campy Triomphe for a Basso. The style for both marques in that era are blocky, hard edged cool. That Exploit rear derailleur you have is clean lined vs. the Triomphe. Sorry if I'm only talking of the aesthetics as I've yet to finish building the Basso. BTW: Curious if your bike is complete with Gipiemme pedals, what type? Was there ever an Exploit pedal? |
Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 19256400)
Rebranded Camapgnolo index levers would put it no earlier than 1987 and they could even be 1990s. It should be fairly easy to get an idea of the era based on whether the levers are Syncro style (1987-1988), Syncro II style (1989-1991) or post Syncro II style (1992+).
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Originally Posted by Dboyle
(Post 19255978)
Hi, can anyone provide insight into the Gipiemme Exploit? When it was available? Compatibility with cranks? Etc. From what I have been able to determine this was a mid 1980's derailleur group. I have a 1986 Raleigh custom order (red with black chain / seat stays and fork, Reynolds 531 P tubing) that is all Gipiemme Chrono Special with Exploit derailleurs. Also has Gipiemme indexing shifters (underside of shifter is marked as Campy). The freewheel is an Gipiemme alloy unit. The bike is incredibly light!
Thx! DB |
Originally Posted by Dboyle
(Post 19257354)
Good question. The pedals are Gipiemme Sprint I believe. That is the only non-Chrono special component except for the Exploit derailleurs. Seatpost is a fluted Gipiemme unit but not sure from what group.
Vintage Gipiemme 300 AX Crono Special Pedals | eBay http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/suYAAO...Xo/s-l1600.jpg |
Did Gipiemme make the Exploit derailleur? I realize of the re-badged Simplex and I suppose as they faded, GPM either produced or had to source a replacement. But here the Exploit shifter is Campagnolo made, and yet the derailleur looks stepped up over the Triomphe and Victory.
Anyways, I think its a neat departure (in some sorts) from the usual all Campy. The hubs are virtually identical to Campagnolo Record with exception to the bearing cones. The cones have a black coating unlike Campy's polished. http://www.hilarystone.com/images/sa...me-Exploit.jpg http://www.rennrad-news.de/forum/att...-5-jpg.323898/ Mild similarity~ Victory S3 graphite finish http://www.velobase.com/CompImages/R...FF2EC9482.jpeg and image of the rear side cage plate http://hilarystone.com/images/sale%2...ars/CGR12C.jpg |
Originally Posted by crank_addict
(Post 19258053)
Did Gipiemme make the Exploit derailleur? I realize of the re-badged Simplex and I suppose as they faded, GPM either produced or had to source a replacement. But here the Exploit shifter is Campagnolo made, and yet the derailleur looks stepped up over the Triomphe and Victory.
Anyways, I think its a neat departure (in some sorts) from the usual all Campy. The hubs are virtually identical to Campagnolo Record with exception to the bearing cones. The cones have a black coating unlike Campy's polished. http://www.hilarystone.com/images/sa...me-Exploit.jpg http://www.rennrad-news.de/forum/att...-5-jpg.323898/ Mild similarity~ Victory S3 graphite finish http://www.velobase.com/CompImages/R...FF2EC9482.jpeg and image of the rear side cage plate http://hilarystone.com/images/sale%2...ars/CGR12C.jpg |
Campy made indexed shifters (and was willing to sell them rebranded) that far back?
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Originally Posted by himespau
(Post 19258932)
Campy made indexed shifters (and was willing to sell them rebranded) that far back?
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definitely a C-record clone - looks like good stuff
VeloBase.com - View Group http://velobase.com/CompImages/Shift...1B5019143.jpeg RD lever has big cable pull that would work with current Campy RD v. short cable pull for Victory http://velobase.com/CompImages/Shift...F184955FD.jpeg |
Well there definitely has been some cross-over between Campy and GPM, they doing some contract work for the Big C on the forging/machining of certain products, maybe even making fully-finished products, but neither firm did much at all to advertise this relationship.
Or to even admit to it! |
I got these last year out of Poland, never seen a White set before. NOS , just a bit of Shelf wear, No box.
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...pseq74jra3.jpg http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...pszvdmmwn7.jpg http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...psgcmmetmn.jpg http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...psx7yhpyvg.jpg http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...pso0ehvh9q.jpg |
Originally Posted by Dboyle
(Post 19259764)
I admit it seems strange. However, that is what the catalogues on the Gipiemme site show. Which is also why I noted that the catalogue may have been mislabeled as a 1982.
Also note the catalogue picture of the pursuit team riding disc wheels. 1982 is a bit early for that. |
Gipiemme catalog (1982)
On this, it looks like one Gipiemme model is C-Record and the other is Triomphe. |
Originally Posted by Michael Angelo
(Post 19260632)
I got these last year out of Poland, never seen a White set before. NOS , just a bit of Shelf wear, No box.
Have two pair in black, one very well used and the other set needing a little TLC. Have yet to take them apart but was there another version with the eccentric axle adjustment? [IMG]https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5586/3...2e482549_b.jpg01gipiemmepedal by carrera247, on Flickr[/IMG] [IMG]https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/481/31...d982803f_b.jpg02gipiemmepedal by carrera247, on Flickr[/IMG] |
Kool world wide novelty features those Pedals have...
I've tried to snag an NOS set of those for some years, but never found a good deal on them........yet |
Originally Posted by Michael Angelo
(Post 19260632)
I got these last year out of Poland, never seen a White set before. NOS , just a bit of Shelf wear, No box.
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...pseq74jra3.jpg http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...pszvdmmwn7.jpg http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...psgcmmetmn.jpg http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...psx7yhpyvg.jpg http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...pso0ehvh9q.jpg Must be quite rare. Would be hard to keep looking new though. Touching up scratches will not be easy, unlike black ones that would do well with the usual Sharpy treatment..... |
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An interesting part of a brochure from 1982. Note the rear derailleur and shift levers are Exploit, but only mentioned by item / part number.
Indeed they produced by contract for Campagnolo. http://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...GPM_2_1982.jpg |
Originally Posted by crank_addict
(Post 19274798)
An interesting part of a brochure from 1982. Note the rear derailleur and shift levers are Exploit, but only mentioned by item / part number.
Indeed they produced by contract for Campagnolo. http://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...GPM_2_1982.jpg |
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Originally Posted by Dboyle
(Post 19274815)
Interesting indeed. Did you get this from the Gipiemme site or another source? My thought is the 82 catalogue from the Gipiemme site might be mislabeled and is really a circa 89 catalogue. However, the Sprint brakes shown seem to be from the early 80s. If this I'd really an 82 catalogue, it would see. That Gipiemme was ahead of Campy.
1982 advertisements feature the double fluted crankarms and the 1982 Battaglin catalog clearly show the bicycles equipped with this crankset and the rebadged Simplex deraillers. These cranksets have disappeared by the 1984 Gipemme catalog but the rebadged Simplex derailleurs are still present. So, the date for the 1984 catalog is realistic and the Battaglin catalog can be no older than 1982 as that was the debut model year for the brand. Consequently, the literature indicates that the rebadged Simplex derailleurs were the correct offerings in 1982. Furthermore, for the Gipemme catalog with Exploit to be 1982, the company would have been violating SunTour's slant parallelogram patent., let alone the catalog showing a pursuit team with disc wheels, a full two years before Moser used them on his revolutionary hour record bicycle. I'm still of the opinion that Campagnolo permitted Gipemme to use their Syncro II lever design after it had been replaced and that the subject catalog is early 1990s, possibly 1992, as opposed to 1982. |
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