Metamorphasis of the Hippie Bike
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Metamorphasis of the Hippie Bike
About 10 years ago, I was in the routine of scavenging cheap bicycle sources in the Mechanicsburg, PA area, hoping to find cheap, reasonably good mountain bikes and parts for an upcoming Scouting trip along the C&O Canal. I had done it a few years previously on a horrible, heavy, big box beast, and was not about to repeat that. One of my regular stops was the Volunteers of America thrift store. People would dump all kinds of goods (including at the time a number of bikes) out back, and I had previous success in walking into the store, telling them I was interested in something out back (which they hadn't looked at yet), and paying their very reasonable price. Just a couple weeks before, I had found a Trek 830 out back, and I was pretty stoked to find a repainted beast in back that had no indentifiable markings, but which did have the trio of cable braze-ons on the top of the top-tube, just like those on Trek MTBs of the era. I went inside, and happily emerged a few minutes later, about $8.00 poorer, but with an Alivio-equipped beast that had been creatively disguised as an artifact of the 1960's.
Aside from the saddle and bar-ends, it looked just like this:
My plan had been to allow my son to ride this for the journey, and get him hooked on cycling. Well, as I found, it was already too late for that, as he had discovered cars... and his attraction was too strong to overcome with either this, or the old Colnago I got for him as lures. Anyway, years passed, and I found myself ready to move, and in possession of two Mountain bikes, and decided I only needed one. I saw the tapered tubing on this bike, and figured it must be a nicer bike, and opted to keep it. I passed the Trek on to jgedwa as a small token for a big favor he'd done for me previously, and moved.
About that time 650B seemed to be quite a phenomena, and I was inspired by conversions that others here had done with old MTBs (much more in line with my budget than stalking a Herse, Singer or J Routens). I was in the planning stages of this, when gravel-grinding variants started to pop up, and I got wind of Compass' plans to introduce the Rat Trap Pass tire. Once again, pragmatism won out, and I rationalized that 26" wheels would be easier to come up with than 650B... all this made feasible by the tire offering.
So finally, in late summer 2015, I got started. I was still curious about what I had, since the fork and geometry didn't quite match up with anything in vintage-trek's catalogs. I mentioned my consternation to someone here, and it was suggested that the mono-stay and the tapered tubing had been associated with Bontrager frames, and with a bit of research, I almost persuaded myself that I had a Bontrager Privateer. Yet, the frame angles and fork didn't quite match up. Shortly after I set to work sanding it down, I uncovered the truth.
Kind of a shame to lose this neat labeling.
So now, finally knowing what I had, I painted it. It came out pretty well. I am satisfied, even though it wasn't quite as stunning as I had dreamed (was hoping for more of an effect of seeing outer-space in the paint, but I'll take it). It came out a lot better than the time I tried spray painting my Raleigh Professional all by myself.
After painting it and getting many of the parts, life bogged my progress down again. So now finally, I have it all together and took it for a very short spin.
Of course, I had to retain a tribute to what it was when I found it:
I need to adjust the brifter angles, tune the brakes and fiddle with the fender line, but overall, I am pleased. The tires make it feel like I'm riding a cloud, and the lower gears get me up the rather steep hill on my street without issues. I'm looking forward to dialing this in, and riding it around a bunch. Of course, there are at least 5 more projects in the queue, but I'm back to making progress now, and it feels good.
A few more pictures of the project are in this album in Flickr.
Aside from the saddle and bar-ends, it looked just like this:
My plan had been to allow my son to ride this for the journey, and get him hooked on cycling. Well, as I found, it was already too late for that, as he had discovered cars... and his attraction was too strong to overcome with either this, or the old Colnago I got for him as lures. Anyway, years passed, and I found myself ready to move, and in possession of two Mountain bikes, and decided I only needed one. I saw the tapered tubing on this bike, and figured it must be a nicer bike, and opted to keep it. I passed the Trek on to jgedwa as a small token for a big favor he'd done for me previously, and moved.
About that time 650B seemed to be quite a phenomena, and I was inspired by conversions that others here had done with old MTBs (much more in line with my budget than stalking a Herse, Singer or J Routens). I was in the planning stages of this, when gravel-grinding variants started to pop up, and I got wind of Compass' plans to introduce the Rat Trap Pass tire. Once again, pragmatism won out, and I rationalized that 26" wheels would be easier to come up with than 650B... all this made feasible by the tire offering.
So finally, in late summer 2015, I got started. I was still curious about what I had, since the fork and geometry didn't quite match up with anything in vintage-trek's catalogs. I mentioned my consternation to someone here, and it was suggested that the mono-stay and the tapered tubing had been associated with Bontrager frames, and with a bit of research, I almost persuaded myself that I had a Bontrager Privateer. Yet, the frame angles and fork didn't quite match up. Shortly after I set to work sanding it down, I uncovered the truth.
Kind of a shame to lose this neat labeling.
So now, finally knowing what I had, I painted it. It came out pretty well. I am satisfied, even though it wasn't quite as stunning as I had dreamed (was hoping for more of an effect of seeing outer-space in the paint, but I'll take it). It came out a lot better than the time I tried spray painting my Raleigh Professional all by myself.
After painting it and getting many of the parts, life bogged my progress down again. So now finally, I have it all together and took it for a very short spin.
Of course, I had to retain a tribute to what it was when I found it:
I need to adjust the brifter angles, tune the brakes and fiddle with the fender line, but overall, I am pleased. The tires make it feel like I'm riding a cloud, and the lower gears get me up the rather steep hill on my street without issues. I'm looking forward to dialing this in, and riding it around a bunch. Of course, there are at least 5 more projects in the queue, but I'm back to making progress now, and it feels good.
A few more pictures of the project are in this album in Flickr.
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Nice work Zorro! Love the peace cable hanger, is it a real Ringle Mojo or an imitation?
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Man that looks great. Almost makes me want a mountain bike.
Nice work!
Nice work!
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Originally Posted by cyclotoine
Nice work Zorro! Love the peace cable hanger, is it a real Ringle Mojo or an imitation?
I went for thrifty on that.
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I'm no great fan of the Dead but even I cringe when my bride, given to misunderstanding and misquoting many cultural references, would call that head badge of yours the "sit on your face" sign.
Originally Posted by USAZorro
01-16-17, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by thumpism
I'm no great fan of the Dead but even I cringe when my bride, given to misunderstanding and misquoting many cultural references, would call that head badge of yours the "sit on your face" sign.
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Originally Posted by USAZorro
About 10 years ago, I was in the routine of scavenging cheap bicycle sources in the Mechanicsburg, PA area, hoping to find cheap, reasonably good mountain bikes and parts for an upcoming Scouting trip along the C&O Canal. I had done it a few years previously on a horrible, heavy, big box beast, and was not about to repeat that. One of my regular stops was the Volunteers of America thrift store. People would dump all kinds of goods (including at the time a number of bikes) out back, and I had previous success in walking into the store, telling them I was interested in something out back (which they hadn't looked at yet), and paying their very reasonable price. Just a couple weeks before, I had found a Trek 830 out back, and I was pretty stoked to find a repainted beast in back that had no indentifiable markings, but which did have the trio of cable braze-ons on the top of the top-tube, just like those on Trek MTBs of the era. I went inside, and happily emerged a few minutes later, about $8.00 poorer, but with an Alivio-equipped beast that had been creatively disguised as an artifact of the 1960's.
Aside from the saddle and bar-ends, it looked just like this:
My plan had been to allow my son to ride this for the journey, and get him hooked on cycling. Well, as I found, it was already too late for that, as he had discovered cars... and his attraction was too strong to overcome with either this, or the old Colnago I got for him as lures. Anyway, years passed, and I found myself ready to move, and in possession of two Mountain bikes, and decided I only needed one. I saw the tapered tubing on this bike, and figured it must be a nicer bike, and opted to keep it. I passed the Trek on to jgedwa as a small token for a big favor he'd done for me previously, and moved.
About that time 650B seemed to be quite a phenomena, and I was inspired by conversions that others here had done with old MTBs (much more in line with my budget than stalking a Herse, Singer or J Routens). I was in the planning stages of this, when gravel-grinding variants started to pop up, and I got wind of Compass' plans to introduce the Rat Trap Pass tire. Once again, pragmatism won out, and I rationalized that 26" wheels would be easier to come up with than 650B... all this made feasible by the tire offering.
So finally, in late summer 2015, I got started. I was still curious about what I had, since the fork and geometry didn't quite match up with anything in vintage-trek's catalogs. I mentioned my consternation to someone here, and it was suggested that the mono-stay and the tapered tubing had been associated with Bontrager frames, and with a bit of research, I almost persuaded myself that I had a Bontrager Privateer. Yet, the frame angles and fork didn't quite match up. Shortly after I set to work sanding it down, I uncovered the truth.
Kind of a shame to lose this neat labeling.
So now, finally knowing what I had, I painted it. It came out pretty well. I am satisfied, even though it wasn't quite as stunning as I had dreamed (was hoping for more of an effect of seeing outer-space in the paint, but I'll take it). It came out a lot better than the time I tried spray painting my Raleigh Professional all by myself.
After painting it and getting many of the parts, life bogged my progress down again. So now finally, I have it all together and took it for a very short spin.
Of course, I had to retain a tribute to what it was when I found it:
I need to adjust the brifter angles, tune the brakes and fiddle with the fender line, but overall, I am pleased. The tires make it feel like I'm riding a cloud, and the lower gears get me up the rather steep hill on my street without issues. I'm looking forward to dialing this in, and riding it around a bunch. Of course, there are at least 5 more projects in the queue, but I'm back to making progress now, and it feels good.
A few more pictures of the project are in this album in Flickr.
Aside from the saddle and bar-ends, it looked just like this:
My plan had been to allow my son to ride this for the journey, and get him hooked on cycling. Well, as I found, it was already too late for that, as he had discovered cars... and his attraction was too strong to overcome with either this, or the old Colnago I got for him as lures. Anyway, years passed, and I found myself ready to move, and in possession of two Mountain bikes, and decided I only needed one. I saw the tapered tubing on this bike, and figured it must be a nicer bike, and opted to keep it. I passed the Trek on to jgedwa as a small token for a big favor he'd done for me previously, and moved.
About that time 650B seemed to be quite a phenomena, and I was inspired by conversions that others here had done with old MTBs (much more in line with my budget than stalking a Herse, Singer or J Routens). I was in the planning stages of this, when gravel-grinding variants started to pop up, and I got wind of Compass' plans to introduce the Rat Trap Pass tire. Once again, pragmatism won out, and I rationalized that 26" wheels would be easier to come up with than 650B... all this made feasible by the tire offering.
So finally, in late summer 2015, I got started. I was still curious about what I had, since the fork and geometry didn't quite match up with anything in vintage-trek's catalogs. I mentioned my consternation to someone here, and it was suggested that the mono-stay and the tapered tubing had been associated with Bontrager frames, and with a bit of research, I almost persuaded myself that I had a Bontrager Privateer. Yet, the frame angles and fork didn't quite match up. Shortly after I set to work sanding it down, I uncovered the truth.
Kind of a shame to lose this neat labeling.
So now, finally knowing what I had, I painted it. It came out pretty well. I am satisfied, even though it wasn't quite as stunning as I had dreamed (was hoping for more of an effect of seeing outer-space in the paint, but I'll take it). It came out a lot better than the time I tried spray painting my Raleigh Professional all by myself.
After painting it and getting many of the parts, life bogged my progress down again. So now finally, I have it all together and took it for a very short spin.
Of course, I had to retain a tribute to what it was when I found it:
I need to adjust the brifter angles, tune the brakes and fiddle with the fender line, but overall, I am pleased. The tires make it feel like I'm riding a cloud, and the lower gears get me up the rather steep hill on my street without issues. I'm looking forward to dialing this in, and riding it around a bunch. Of course, there are at least 5 more projects in the queue, but I'm back to making progress now, and it feels good.
A few more pictures of the project are in this album in Flickr.
The way you explained this. The bike build. The paint...
Such a well thought out, well executed build...and I like your aesthetic choices.
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Well built! Looks great, and personalized to do the job.
There are lots of painstaking, "time and money are no object builds" here. I think the constrained builds are just as admirable.
Plus, I'd buy a Giant Iguana just for the bragging rights. "Yeah, rode a giant iguana to work today, a little twitchy on the ice, but no big deal."
There are lots of painstaking, "time and money are no object builds" here. I think the constrained builds are just as admirable.
Plus, I'd buy a Giant Iguana just for the bragging rights. "Yeah, rode a giant iguana to work today, a little twitchy on the ice, but no big deal."
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Originally Posted by thumpism
I'm no great fan of the Dead but even I cringe when my bride, given to misunderstanding and misquoting many cultural references, would call that head badge of yours the "sit on your face" sign.
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Love it. What tires did you end up going with? Compass? I am jonesing for something nicer than the performance 26" hardcase tires I have and yours look awesome.
Make sure you post it here too! https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...nversions.html
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
Freudian slip on her part?
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Originally Posted by tricky
Love it. What tires did you end up going with? Compass? I am jonesing for something nicer than the performance 26" hardcase tires I have and yours look awesome.
Make sure you post it here too! https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...nversions.html
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Posted. I went with Compass Rat Trap Pass tires.
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Originally Posted by USAZorro
Posted. I went with Compass Rat Trap Pass tires.
Great build.
Fun thread.
Thanks.
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I never wanted to put drop bars on a mountain bike. Until now.
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Originally Posted by SloButWide
Well built! Looks great, and personalized to do the job.
There are lots of painstaking, "time and money are no object builds" here. I think the constrained builds are just as admirable.
Plus, I'd buy a Giant Iguana just for the bragging rights. "Yeah, rode a giant iguana to work today, a little twitchy on the ice, but no big deal."
There are lots of painstaking, "time and money are no object builds" here. I think the constrained builds are just as admirable.
Plus, I'd buy a Giant Iguana just for the bragging rights. "Yeah, rode a giant iguana to work today, a little twitchy on the ice, but no big deal."
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Originally Posted by thumpism
Nah, it's just that once she's convinced she's correct about something her insistence on believing it will outlast anyone's patience in trying to correct her.
Tell her that logo was invented by Owsley Stanley.
Excellent restoration, BTW.
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looks great. Central PA still is reeling from your departure. Hope you are doing well.
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Love the build. Great story!
It can have great results. I had to leave this one in the suburbs, but it turned out great, it was a fun ride:
Originally Posted by noglider
I never wanted to put drop bars on a mountain bike. Until now.
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Originally Posted by USAZorro
What model Microshifts are those?...R9? Curious how they perform. Also as mentioned earlier- are the shift cables missing cable ends at the shifter or is that just how the cables naturally route based on the bike's geometry? They seem to go down right away more than out to the middle then down. Interesting routing.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
Wow. You married my wife?
I knew I was marrying Miss Right. I just didn't know her first name was Always.
Small world, Zorro. The rest of my workgroup is in Mechanicsburg. I head there twice a year. Hopefully if I'm back this summer I'll have time to shop Craigslist.
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Originally Posted by SloButWide
I knew I was marrying Miss Right. I just didn't know her first name was Always.
Small world, Zorro. The rest of my workgroup is in Mechanicsburg. I head there twice a year. Hopefully if I'm back this summer I'll have time to shop Craigslist.
Small world, Zorro. The rest of my workgroup is in Mechanicsburg. I head there twice a year. Hopefully if I'm back this summer I'll have time to shop Craigslist.
Small world indeed.
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01-17-17, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Great frame color!
What model Microshifts are those?...R9? Curious how they perform. Also as mentioned earlier- are the shift cables missing cable ends at the shifter or is that just how the cables naturally route based on the bike's geometry? They seem to go down right away more than out to the middle then down. Interesting routing.
What model Microshifts are those?...R9? Curious how they perform. Also as mentioned earlier- are the shift cables missing cable ends at the shifter or is that just how the cables naturally route based on the bike's geometry? They seem to go down right away more than out to the middle then down. Interesting routing.
Those are R10's They took a bit to dial in, but on the very short ride I took, they seemed to work pretty well.
I deliberately omitted the ferrule at the lever. The routing looks a bit more different in that picture than it actually is, but the cable stops are pretty tight behind the head tube, and I think that has as much to do with the difference as the absence of ferrules.
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01-18-17, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wgscott
Wow. You married my wife?
Tell her that logo was invented by Owsley Stanley.
Excellent restoration, BTW.
Tell her that logo was invented by Owsley Stanley.
Excellent restoration, BTW.
01-18-17, 04:47 PM
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The first MTB drop bar conversion that I actually like. (Which definitely says more about me than the about bikes). Well done!
