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I remember why I don't like selling stuff on CL

Old 01-20-17, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
Waited two weeks to make sure the money order didn't bounce
How does that work?
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Originally Posted by easyupbug
I met a women selling a bike (I really only wanted the wheels) and found a sheriff with her who had seen her crying in the suburban. It was her husbands (died recently?) bike and it was tearing her up to sell it. It took quite a while, the officer was super nice, he took the money and got things out for her. It was gut wrenching to be there as she pulled spares and accessaries out of the vehicle saying you better take all these as well.
Gosh that sounds horrible.
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
Gosh that sounds horrible.
It was, have not looked at CL since. When I got home I found the spare still wrapped tires were dried out like they had been in storage for a long time, that was a loved cyclist. The Klein Quantum frame was in beautiful condition and I should have paid more but the hole thing was so surreal I could not think straight. Had me thinking about my wife the whole time.
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Had a grieving widow when I bought my Ironman last year for an almost too cheap price -- , the bike was a 54, and when I got it, I told her the bike was my size, and remarked that we must have been a similar height (around 5'9 or so in my case)

She said - "oh no, he was over 6' tall". --- evidently the gent bought the wrong size bike, rode it for awhile, then had a much larger custom frame built for him,

Then I didn't feel bad about the transaction anymore , as I wasn't buying the guy's flagship bike, but a stepping stone machine he bought to see if he really liked cycling or not.

I expressed some interest in looking at the custom, but she stated it was at their other house and not for sale at this time. So evidently she was holding on to the one she thought had true importance
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You're selling/buying something to/from a complete stranger. What do you expect? Some are more sophisticated than others. Some are more odd.

I can't recall a transaction that was considered 'bad'. I negotiate the price prior to meeting. If the specs of the item do not meet my expectations I pass. I won't try to renegotiate.

There was this one time when I was in contact with a someone trying to sell a 2016 Norco Threshold A1 with 5800 for $400CAD, which was less than the groupset by itself. He was even willing to take the subway from downtown to meet me halfway north of the city. In the end I cancelled the meeting. It just sounded too suspicious to me.
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Meh- I sell from my house and buy at homes all the time. Its probably the smaller city reasoning, but I dont have any concerns. Everyone I have met, over many years, has been cool. 80% I end up talking with and 20% just buy the bike and leave(sometimes without even riding it, oddly).

I have no interest in driving with the bike to meet at a certain place. Too much of a hassle for me.

I do google everyone's name when a meet is requested by email. Some of the women have come with boyfriends/husbands because they arent sure of me, which I dont think twice about.


I bought a repair stand and truing stand from a guy who rode in the first 15 RAGBRAIs. Went inside to see all the patches and riding memorabilia. That stuff is what I actually love about CL.
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I've delivered 3 bikes over the years from my home in the "burbs" to Boston & Cambridge. the kids are always immensely grateful. it's gratifying to see those big smiles
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Waited two weeks to make sure the money order didn't bounce

Originally Posted by JReade
How does that work?
According to my bank, in the event you deposit a fraudulent money order, they will catch it within 7-10 business days and it will show up in your online bank statement as a chargeback.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006
You're selling/buying something to/from a complete stranger. What do you expect?
I expect someone to contact me, tell me they're interested and coordinate a place/time to meet and to bring the amount of cash in the firm price in case he wants to go home with it. Pretty simple.
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
Waited two weeks to make sure the money order didn't bounce



According to my bank, in the event you deposit a fraudulent money order, they will catch it within 7-10 business days and it will show up in your online bank statement as a chargeback.
I was thinking as

"you buy a money order with cash, it's not going to "bounce" like they check the account and see that there is no money there"

Not "the whole thing is a fake slip of paper"
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
Hilarious.
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I've bought and sold lots of bike stuff on my local craigslist and had overwhelmingly positive experiences, I can only think of three occasions when things went poorly:
- buyer who was an extremely aggressive haggler to the point of hostility, who wasted 30 minutes of my time trying to get a cheaper price on a $50 bike
- went to look at a bike and it was not in the condition advertised, so I offered to buy it for the value of the parts on the otherwise trashed frame, seller got very angry and started cursing me out for having wasted his time to show the bike
- spoke with seller on the phone then drove 30 minutes to pick up a bike, on arrival seller says he's gotten messages saying the bike is more valuable and asks for double the price listed on the ad (we talked and I ended up buying it for the original amount, which was a fair price, not a steal)

In all of these cases nothing more was lost than a few minutes of time, which on the whole isn't bad at all since I've made a decent amount of money selling things on CL, and I've gotten three fantastic 'keeper' bikes via the list.
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I've bought and sold a fair amount on CL over the years, and I used to have buyers meet me at my house, but decided to stop doing that. Nothing odd happened, but it just seemed like taking a risk I didn't need to take. Now, I meet buyers a few blocks away at a subway stop. It actually makes the test ride a bit more challenging (this is a pretty busy intersection where we meet with lots of sidewalk foot traffic). It's also good to ride the bike I'm selling a few extra blocks just to make sure nothing is horribly wrong.

I've yet to have anyone do anything particular unexpected. If anything, the number of people who hand over money without a test ride is always stunning. But then I usually price bikes to sell fast.
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Old 01-20-17, 12:23 PM
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Most all my experiences have been positive once past the initial interaction by phone/e-mail and like others, I have met some nice, friendly and interesting people.

I also buy & rebuild old machinery, so have sometimes gone deep into rural Washington and Oregon via gravel and logging roads with only an occasional bad "deliverance" type vibe when asking directions of locals. The only somewhat negative experience involved sale of a much loved Miyata.

We had haggled to an acceptable price over the phone and buyer drove over 1 hour to my home. When payment time came, he tried for a further reduction of the price, claiming that was all he had. I offered to let him have the bike minus the Giles Berthoudt SS fenders, otherwise I would just keep it. He & the wife went through their car and her purse to come up with a can of coins and small bills to pay the agreed $$. Don
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Originally Posted by speedy25
On the other side of life- Lately there has been a rash of craigslist deals gone bad when the seller had only one thing in mind: Relieve the buyer of anything of value he may have. Some of the local police have set up a "trade zone" for people to do safe transactions. As mentioned before- DO NOT do the transaction at your home. Be safe. Sell stuff!

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I often wonder about that. I've only ever bought things on craigslist... lots of things over the years. Every single one was at the sellers house. But most were things you can't just take somewhere to meet... like tractors, implements, fridge, car, trailer, boats, etc.

Actually I have a couple things I was thinking about listing, but again they are not mobile like my 1950s John Deere 60 with a busted clutch. How often do sellers wear a pistol on their belt when making a deal at home? Would probably make some uncomfortable, at least city folk, but around here not sure if anyone would mind.
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Originally Posted by T Stew
How often do sellers wear a pistol on their belt when making a deal at home? Would probably make some uncomfortable, at least city folk, but around here not sure if anyone would mind.

I always have my .38 in my pocket , - I would not be taken aback by someone open carrying, but I'd rather not do it personally.
But if your selling a tractor? I carry a 357 on my hip all the time when on the tractor for errant harmful critters, -- if this is a rural setting, it's quite common
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"How often do sellers wear a pistol on their belt when making a deal at home? Would probably make some uncomfortable, at least city folk, but around here not sure if anyone would mind."

I once bought an aluminum fishing boat off CL and while getting out my money to pay, a guy drove up & offered more $$ for the boat. Unfortunately, he used some profane language and the seller(a tall, elderly Southern gent) replied "Son, you don't know me or my guest well enough to use that kind of talk! Now get off my land before I go get my 12 gauge. End of discussion. Don
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Originally Posted by nlerner

If anything, the number of people who hand over money without a test ride is always stunning. .
When I was collecting parts bikes left and right, I rarely rode them-- half of them had flat tires when I got there, and most were not my size to boot

Most bikes I have bought on CL have been in that category
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Originally Posted by sloar
I've met some really cool people buying and selling bikes on craigslist. I put an ad up one time looking for a vintage steel Trek. Someone emailed me saying he had one, I emailed him back asking for a pic. He replied that he doesn't do pics, we've been good friends ever since. I run into some flakes once in awhile but I usually have good experiences.
Me too. I'd say about 3/4 of the people I've met in the course of buying & selling on CL have been really good folks- and in any number of cool ways. I pick a neutral location, like a coffee shop, for the deal, and usually have an interesting conversation in the process. On the whole, I'd call it good fun.

But that last 25% though... wheeeooo- what a buncha loonies, neurotics, cheapskates, flakes, morons, druggies, anger management cases...
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Holy cow. I put a bike up for sale last night. The first guy sent me an email and told me to text his mom about it for him (what?). The next guy sent an email, asked if he could send me a check in the mail and hold it for him until he gets into town. And that he hopes I'm being honest about it because he's a man of God. The third guy wants it, but doesn't know how he can pick it up because he's an hour away and doesn't have a car. He's probably hinting that I should hand deliver it to him. I'm about ready to take the ad down and keep it.

I think you abbreviated "Bike Forums" wrong.

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Originally Posted by DMC707
When I was collecting parts bikes left and right, I rarely rode them-- half of them had flat tires when I got there, and most were not my size to boot

Most bikes I have bought on CL have been in that category
Well, I don't think it's your intention to make it seem so, but that's not the condition of the bikes I was selling! All were ready to ride (except of the occasional frameset I have sold, but that's usually on eBay).
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I have done very well on Craigslist, in once case I contacted the seller, sent him a money order, then took the train to Long Island to get the bike. In another case I sent a deposit on a Raleigh Tourist, the seller held it for several months until I could take delivery. Drove to Duxbury, MA and back-over 600 miles round trip.How's that for dedication ?! Bought my mint 1966 Dunelt with S3C rear hub off Craig's List. The seller was a Hispanic fellow, I wonder if he knew what he really had. I paid $120.00.
Waiting for a money order to clear ?
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
I expect someone to contact me, tell me they're interested and coordinate a place/time to meet and to bring the amount of cash in the firm price in case he wants to go home with it. Pretty simple.
In a perfect world with people who behave according to the way we expect them to, yes, for sure. I'd expect that too because that's exactly what I do. But...
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+1 to meeting in a neutral area. Why take unnecessary risks?

I think it's interesting to exchange emails and form an idea of who you think the other party is. Last time I sold a bike I was sure I was dealing with a female college student. Turned out to be a 40 yo Russian dude with a fistful of cash. Very weird, but he bought the bike.
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Originally Posted by tashi
Wanna meet some losers, sell a used mountain bike. Ho-ly cow.
C'mon, don't leave us hanging! Share one with us

Guess I got really lucky this summer selling mine - I had a buyer come by the day after posting, looked her over and paid my asking price. Nice when it works out like that.

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