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I remember why I don't like selling stuff on CL

Old 01-20-17, 02:52 PM
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Imagine how infuriating it must be to actually own a retail business. When I was around 8-9-10yo, I'd call up the local hobby store and have the guy go check the price on the rocket I wanted just because I was so wound up about getting it.
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Originally Posted by T Stew
How often do sellers wear a pistol on their belt when making a deal at home? Would probably make some uncomfortable, at least city folk, but around here not sure if anyone would mind.
"I always have my .38 in my pocket , - I would not be taken aback by someone open carrying, but I'd rather not do it personally"


I never understood the fear of selling from home. Of course I never let strangers in my home, always have the bike in the yard. I always figured, what's the worst that could happen? They ride off with the bike and don't come back. But usually they arrive in a car, and the bikes aren't that valuable that I would be devastated. But it never occured to me that people would be carrying; maybe I do have a good reason to be afraid.
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Originally Posted by rccardr
CL can be skeezy. I'm pretty careful about controlling the situation when I'm selling, but have had some weird buying experiences.
I ended up in a guys old concrete basement climbing over junk looking for a "Vintage Trek" advertised on Craigslist. Everything about the situation told me to get the hell out of there. I wasn't in the best part of town to begin with and the dude was strange. John Wayne Gacy strange. Right away he invites me in to look at his "artwork" while completely ignoring the fact that I was on my lunch break and there to buy a bike. I tried to refuse but after the third request I finally caved, hoping to take a peek whatever this guy is calling art and get straight down to business.

The house was a disaster and every couple of steps caused a cat to emerge from wherever it was hiding and run past my feet. He keeps going on and on jumping from how he is an artist and on disability and his bad back and pain pills and remodeling the house and construction and he is an artist and he does art and sculptures and coffee. Finally I get him on the subject of the bike, you know the reason I am there.

Oh yeah, it is in the basement.

I wanted to bolt so bad. I figured I would either end up as this lunatic's lunch for the next week or buying whatever worthless pile of junk bike was in that basement just to get out of that crazy dump. The dimly-lit basement was messier than the house and the excessive number of random, crumpled tarps was adding to my uneasiness. The owner waited at the stairs(because of his bad back) while he directed me as to what to move and climb over in order to get to the bike. The whole time this is going on he is still jabbering about other random topics(back,art,pills,coffee,downtown,etc) At this point I was fairly sure that I wasn't going to make it out of this basement alive. After several minutes, I finally reached the bike. Between the terrible lighting and the years of dust I couldn't even tell what it was so I asked If I could take it outside for a better look. He said "sure" but when I managed to get the bike to the stairs he just stood there on the bottom step talking about his back for what felt like an hour.

When I finally managed to escape that house, I realized that the "Vintage Trek" was a mint condition 89 520. His asking price? $50. I quickly paid the man and as I was walking toward my truck he said "Hey come back over sometime and we can weld together".
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I've ran into both the creepy and the nice. One guy kept sending me harassing emails and kept calling me over and over and hanging up. What a nightmare.

Then, another guy and I became pretty cool friends. He looks out for me now and I look out for things he is looking for.

So you get both weirdos and good folk.
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Originally Posted by sunnyone
"I always have my .38 in my pocket , - I would not be taken aback by someone open carrying, but I'd rather not do it personally"


I never understood the fear of selling from home. Of course I never let strangers in my home, always have the bike in the yard. I always figured, what's the worst that could happen? They ride off with the bike and don't come back. But usually they arrive in a car, and the bikes aren't that valuable that I would be devastated. But it never occured to me that people would be carrying; maybe I do have a good reason to be afraid.
I never give out my address unless they are "on the way" and I have a verifiable cell number that I've had several conversations with.

My thought is that they could get your house number and wait till you are gone to "purchase" your item...
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Originally Posted by trailmix
I ended up in a guys old concrete basement climbing over junk looking for a "Vintage Trek" advertised on Craigslist. Everything about the situation told me to get the hell out of there. I wasn't in the best part of town to begin with and the dude was strange. John Wayne Gacy strange. Right away he invites me in to look at his "artwork" while completely ignoring the fact that I was on my lunch break and there to buy a bike. I tried to refuse but after the third request I finally caved, hoping to take a peek whatever this guy is calling art and get straight down to business.

The house was a disaster and every couple of steps caused a cat to emerge from wherever it was hiding and run past my feet. He keeps going on and on jumping from how he is an artist and on disability and his bad back and pain pills and remodeling the house and construction and he is an artist and he does art and sculptures and coffee. Finally I get him on the subject of the bike, you know the reason I am there.

Oh yeah, it is in the basement.

I wanted to bolt so bad. I figured I would either end up as this lunatic's lunch for the next week or buying whatever worthless pile of junk bike was in that basement just to get out of that crazy dump. The dimly-lit basement was messier than the house and the excessive number of random, crumpled tarps was adding to my uneasiness. The owner waited at the stairs(because of his bad back) while he directed me as to what to move and climb over in order to get to the bike. The whole time this is going on he is still jabbering about other random topics(back,art,pills,coffee,downtown,etc) At this point I was fairly sure that I wasn't going to make it out of this basement alive. After several minutes, I finally reached the bike. Between the terrible lighting and the years of dust I couldn't even tell what it was so I asked If I could take it outside for a better look. He said "sure" but when I managed to get the bike to the stairs he just stood there on the bottom step talking about his back for what felt like an hour.

When I finally managed to escape that house, I realized that the "Vintage Trek" was a mint condition 89 520. His asking price? $50. I quickly paid the man and as I was walking toward my truck he said "Hey come back over sometime and we can weld together".
What an experience! The things one has to go through to get what they want. lol
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
Imagine how infuriating it must be to actually own a retail business. When I was around 8-9-10yo, I'd call up the local hobby store and have the guy go check the price on the rocket I wanted just because I was so wound up about getting it.
After I retired from the military I was a manager of a motorcycle retail store for three years (Cycle Gear). Never again. It was cool to be in the motorcycle scene but some of the customers would make me lose my mind. Being asked "can I get a discount" 50 times a day. Then they get mad because you won't give them a discount for no reason. Another one was the people who would call in, ask me if we had something, I would go find it, they would ask me to hold it for them and then they would never come. Of course the worst were the people who would come try stuff on to find their proper size, then they would go home and order it online after I would spend 30 minutes helping them out.

Sorry, I could keep going......
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I live in NYC and I do most sales from home. You can get a pretty good feel for if someone is sketchy or not over email. If they seem sketchy, I don't sell to them, simple as that. Generally just in case I meet them out front of the building, but I have invited many people in. One guy who bought a bike from me, came back another time to buy something else and I ended up making cocktails and chatting with him for an hour.
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What percentage of the population has an IQ below 80?- 6.7%. These are the folks that contact me when I sell something on Craig's. Except for the one guy that REALLY wanted the '83 Trek 720 I was selling, He sent the money paypal without hesitation and picked it up a couple of weeks later.

Some sellers are such a waste of time, it's as though it's really too much trouble to sell their stuff so why try and do a decent job of it. The inability to look at their own belongings and offer a somewhat accurate description is bewildering. Oh wait- the 6.7% can be sellers as well. I am sure all of us BF members are extremely good sellers and buyers.
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Currently for whatever reason, I am actually doing the car free, cyclist lifestyle, commuter, go to store with a basket thing. So not doing much in my local CL CV market for time being. So I will just talk about trying to do a CV bike deal from a distance on CL. (I spend way too much on ebay btw also)

I am already completely tired of wagging my tail try to convince CL Sellers from a distance that I am not scammer when there is decent deal up for grabs. I don't have really deep pockets, but I don't BS either and am straight up guy when it is time to do a deal. If I have a good 1st impression of Seller, and feel ok about bottom line with additional shipping cost, then I am usually willing to put funds up front. ( Hey guess what everybody, it is often the Buyer who is taking most the risk in these CL deals) In fact it has gotten so bad about "watch out for Buyer scam" this and that , that I think attention should be highlighted for CL Seller scammers! Look, if you get a deposit in your Paypal account and/or the Gold standard in money order USPS. Chances are you can take the money to the bank. And chances are the Buyer who just put funds up front is sweating a little wondering when you are going to drop off bike at LBS and /or provide tracking.
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I have two bikes I need to sell come spring. This thread has convinced me I need to stop selling from home. Maybe I can find a nice bicycle hitch-rack on CL.... so I can meet buyers somewhere else.

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I've had generally good experiences buying stuff...I'm about to experience the other.
I just picked up a lemond buenos aires at 6 this morning at a shopping mall...nobody around and 400 cash. Nice guy, just looking for a tri bike for an upcoming Iron man. I guess he agreed to meet because I had emailed to tell him not to sell for a dime less...and then I had a change of heart and bought it the following day. He had many responses and didn't have to go for an early morning drive to meet a stranger.
I picked up my pinarello from a lovely lady who was backing away from cycling because of a young one. Went in her house..took off the seat for her and carried the bike out. I guess I look trust worthy. Funny because im a very muscular bald guy. She also had many responses and could have sold for considerably more. Pinarello treviso es 1992 in very nice condition for 500.
Nicer bikes that are reasonably priced get hammered with offers. Other bikes sit and rot on kijiji.
Those are Canadian dollars..multiply by .75 for American. ..in Toronto a relatively hot market.
I need to sell some bikes now..an 85 miyata 710 and a state black label so I am curious who and what I'll meet.

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Originally Posted by Dave Cutter
This thread has convinced me I need to stop selling from home.
...unless you want to trap someone in your basement.
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I've both bought and sold a fair amount on CL over the years, and have developed a pretty standard routine. I always use the initial email/ text back-and-forth to qualify the buyer or seller. That, coupled with situational awareness, has worked out pretty well so far.
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Originally Posted by tmh657
What percentage of the population has an IQ below 80?- 6.7%.
You sure? Given recent events, I'd say more like 67 %.

Who was it mentioned that wood lathe.

Do you deliver? I can pay in donuts and beer.
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There's no denying, around 50% of the US population have a below median IQ.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
...unless you want to trap someone in your basement.
That's funny. I did actually LOL and when I read something on here and laugh my wife will ask me what's so funny. There is no explaining this one to her. Wouldn't even try.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
...unless you want to trap someone in your basement.
One bike IS in my basement. But there is no clutter, everything is well lit... and the bike sits (displayed) in my man-cave.

Most people I've dealt with have been real nice.... maybe an oddball or two. But why take chances.

My biggest complaint about CL right now.... is the lack of good C&V listings.
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Originally Posted by trailmix
"Hey come back over sometime and we can weld together".
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Sounds like a creepy movie for sure.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Holy cow. I put a bike up for sale last night. The first guy sent me an email and told me to text his mom about it for him (what?). The next guy sent an email, asked if he could send me a check in the mail and hold it for him until he gets into town. And that he hopes I'm being honest about it because he's a man of God. The third guy wants it, but doesn't know how he can pick it up because he's an hour away and doesn't have a car. He's probably hinting that I should hand deliver it to him. I'm about ready to take the ad down and keep it.

That's pretty mild, actually. It must be only legal for medicinal use where you're at.
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Wow, reading these posts I am thinking what a paranoid society you are living in ( the choice of president is probably reflected by this). Buying and selling vintage bicycling stuff I only meet other bike nuts here in the Netherlands, no bad experiences in the last 10 years, and certainly no armed sellers or buyers.
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This is America. No comparison.
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Originally Posted by tashi
Wanna meet some losers, sell a used mountain bike. Ho-ly cow.

I actually really like when folks come from a long way away to make a purchase. You can be pretty firm on price with 'em, what are they going to do, drive six hours and NOT buy something?
So, are you selling the bike on it's face value, or leveraging their time against them? Factors in human negotiations, for sure.

That's why ebay and CL can be such a circus, because as humans, we are not satisfied with "caveman see, caveman buy" or "caveman no want, caveman sell."

It's about the fun.
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Originally Posted by Vieux chnoque
....... certainly no armed sellers or buyers.
With the recent popularity of concealed carry here in the Midwest.... I would assume that most of the 30ish crowd is armed. At a recent child's birthday party.... I overheard several young mothers discussing what "purse guns" they were carrying.

I remember Nancy Reagan mentioning her "tiny little" purse gun.... that Ronnie taught her how to shoot. It is a fine truly American tradition that has no problematic history.

I have no problems with fellow citizens that can defend themselves.
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