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Found this vintage bicycle in Scotland, ID needed

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Old 01-22-17, 03:25 PM
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Found this vintage bicycle in Scotland, ID needed

anyone know what era and what purpose it served with that weird big inbuilt basket cage frame? how rare is this?
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Aye, tae bike ye are lookin' at is a laddie's bike.....

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I am trying to to understand how some of the tubes have nearly pristine paint while the other tubes have so much patina.
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Originally Posted by AlexCyclistRoch
Aye, tae bike ye are lookin' at is a laddie's bike.....

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you almost got it right "thon" rather than "tae" which means "to" "to bike you are looking at" makes no sense

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I am trying to to understand how some of the tubes have nearly pristine paint while the other tubes have so much patina.
perhaps half buried into the ground at one point?
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This type of bicycle is generically classified as a "delivery bicycle". They were popular with small shops for delivering orders to local customers. The basket was integrated with the frame, so that it could carry larger loads and not affect the steering to the extent of a handlebar/fork mounted basket. In my region they started appearing shortly after the Great War and were still being manufactured in the late 1950s Based on the presence of stirrup brakes, I'd say this is a British manufacturer, though I can't identify it from the pictures.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
These types of bicycles are generically classified as "delivery bicycles". They were popular with small shops for delivering orders to local customers. The basket was integrated with hte frame, so that it could carry larger loads and not affect the steering to the extent of a handlebar/fork mounted basket. In my region they started appearing shortly after the Great War and were still being manufactured in the late 1950s. Based on the presence of stirrup brakes, I'd say this is a British manufacturer, though I can't identify it from the pictures.
Well if its British, then it's obviously of no value in Scotland. I think you just answered the OP's valuation question,
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The restoration will keep you busy and cost you many a quid .

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Originally Posted by T-Mar
This type of bicycle is generically classified as a "delivery bicycle". They were popular with small shops for delivering orders to local customers. The basket was integrated with the frame, so that it could carry larger loads and not affect the steering to the extent of a handlebar/fork mounted basket. In my region they started appearing shortly after the Great War and were still being manufactured in the late 1950s Based on the presence of stirrup brakes, I'd say this is a British manufacturer, though I can't identify it from the pictures.
Same here. They were especially popular with butchers. And they were raced too! Lots of towns had a yearly "butchers' race". And many a professional racer started out running errands for a local retailer.

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Same here. They were especially popular with butchers. And they were raced too! Lots of towns had a yearly "butchers' race". And many a professional racer started out running errands for a local retailer.

Yes, butchers and grocers were probably the two largest users, though I've seen some for printers, pharmacists, hard ware stores, etc. Over here, the merchant's name was typically printed on a sheet metal panel attached within the main triangle, as opposed to the basket. I suppose that way the advertising was always on the bicycle, even when the basket was removed. I wonder if they ever had 'Butcher's vs. Grocers Relay Races' where they had to transfer a defined weight of product from bicycle to bicycle during the hand-off? It could have made some interesting viewing.
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