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Old 01-26-17, 08:37 PM
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Old 01-27-17, 07:52 AM
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Those vehicles are awesome. A parade but not with floats, full on custom build for each manufacturer.

Wouldn't mind owning one of those old panel van types.
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You need to watch the episode of Wheeler Dealers that features a Citroen panel van being resurrected from its demise into a sweet sandwich shop on wheels. Mike and Edd sis their selves proud with that one.

@juvela, thanks for that one, great footage from 61 there!

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Originally Posted by Bikerider007 View Post
Those vehicles are awesome. A parade but not with floats, full on custom build for each manufacturer.

Wouldn't mind owning one of those old panel van types.
Vehicles me fave element also!
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Thanks for posting, saving to watch later.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass View Post
Ah, yes. 1953. We won that one. Led to the start in Amsterdam the next year.

The interesting thing about this film is that the makers were good at making a film, but knew next to nothing about the riders and the Tour de France. They managed to miss all the famous riders, and when they finally get one (Bobet), they get the name wrong (Babet).
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
That's an amazing video. Some aspects of the Tour haven't changed. It is some of France's greatest French kitsch, if I may use those two words together. Perhaps there is a French word for it. It's a freak show with all kinds of things, including those silly commercial vehicles.

The music is excellent.

1961 happens to be the year I was born in (January), so it's fun to think of what the world was like then. It was a long time ago, and it wasn't.
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I may not have a grail bike, but that Facellia at 1:10 sure is a grail car.
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Originally Posted by qcpmsame View Post
You need to watch the episode of Wheeler Dealers that features a Citroen panel van being resurrected from its demise into a sweet sandwich shop on wheels. Mike and Edd sis their selves proud with that one.

@juvela, thanks for that one, great footage from 61 there!

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The Citroen H (and HY) vans have been a favourite o mine for decades. Their corrugated sheet metal bodies have always reminded me of the Junkers Ju52 transport planes of the 1930's. Evidently the writer of this wiki entry had the same thought:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CitroŽn_H_Van

Enjoyed a long production run of about thirty-five years.

The aeroplane:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_52



For H van fans the 1966 motion picture "After The Fox" starring Peter Sellers is a must. He plays a criminal "hiding in plain sight" as an auteur film director on location. A Citroen H van serves as the film crew's base of operations and is in many shots.

After the Fox (1966) - IMDb

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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
The Citroen H (and HY) vans have been a favourite o mine for decades. Their corrugated sheet metal bodies have always reminded me of the Junkers Ju52 transport planes of the 1930's. Evidently the writer of this wiki entry had the same thought:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CitroŽn_H_Van

Enjoyed a long production run of about thirty-five years.

The aeroplane:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_52



For H van fans the 1966 motion picture "After The Fox" starring Peter Sellers is a must. He plays a criminal "hiding in plain sight" as an auteur film director on location. A Citroen H van serves as the film crew's base of operations and is in many shots.

After the Fox (1966) - IMDb

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Thanks very much Lynn. Me fave version is the one fitted with a degaussing ring used to explode magnetic marine mines.





Italeri makes a detailed 1/72 model kit of the bird which can be constructed several different ways.

Review: Junkers Ju-52/3mg6e MS | IPMS/USA Reviews

One is featured prominently late in the film "Where Eagles Dare" (1968) where it transports the picture's characters from Germany to Britain during the second world war.

Where Eagles Dare (1968) - IMDb

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Interesting that Citroen means lemon. Cool video. Wasn't that the year Poulidor finished 2nd?
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Thanks very much Lynn. Me fave version is the one fitted with a degaussing ring used to explode magnetic marine mines.




Italeri makes a detailed 1/72 model kit of the bird which can be constructed several different ways.

Review: Junkers Ju-52/3mg6e MS | IPMS/USA Reviews

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Where Eagles Dare (1968) - IMDb

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Cool shots. But I got to see the one in my photo up close.

This is Iron Annie, once owned by adventure author Martin Caidin. I believe it is now across the pond.
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The 1953 TdF in "HD". Wow!! What a treat to see! Way better than today's rather predicable TdF tactics. The bikes are more beautiful, the riders aren't as anorexic, and their "kit" isn't as clownish looking as the poor skinny wheeled billboards of today.

Thanks for sharing it Lazyass. Where did you find it, and are there more of them like that out there to see.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
Ah, yes. 1953. We won that one. Led to the start in Amsterdam the next year.

The interesting thing about this film is that the makers were good at making a film, but knew next to nothing about the riders and the Tour de France. They managed to miss all the famous riders, and when they finally get one (Bobet), they get the name wrong (Babet).
The 1953 video also showed and mentioned Gino Bartali several times. And I'm 99% sure (I don't speak the language the video is in) they showed an aged Maurice Garin, winner of the inaugural TdF in 1903, being guided along on a bike, towards the end of the video/race. Maybe the only time Garin was filmed actually riding a bike?

Very, very cool to see. What also makes it so good is the sharp imagery, it's not even as fuzzy as some of the YouTube videos of races in the 1980's.
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Cool shots. But I got to see the one in my photo up close.

This is Iron Annie, once owned by adventure author Martin Caidin. I believe it is now across the pond.
Ha! Suspected those were your jambes back there by the boarding ladder.

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The 1953 video also showed and mentioned Gino Bartali several times. And I'm 99% sure (I don't speak the language the video is in) they showed an aged Maurice Garin, winner of the inaugural TdF in 1903, being guided along on a bike, towards the end of the video/race. Maybe the only time Garin was filmed actually riding a bike?

Very, very cool to see. What also makes it so good is the sharp imagery, it's not even as fuzzy as some of the YouTube videos of races in the 1980's.
Yes, that is Garin, at 1:15:52. Apparently it was customary in those days for him to do an honorary round in the Parc des Princes.
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Here's another nugget. No sound, but it's in color and in the latter half of the film you can get a really good look at the bikes.
@juvela: check out the position of the pump on Adri Suykerbuyk's bike at 1:06.
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Interesting that Citroen means lemon.
Actually it means citizen Citron is french for lemon.
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'Citroen' is actually Dutch for lemon.
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Cool shots. But I got to see the one in my photo up close.

This is Iron Annie, once owned by adventure author Martin Caidin. I believe it is now across the pond.
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Sad news today for Auntie JU fans. One of the few remaining in flying condition crashed yesterday in CH with the death of all aboard.

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Picture of the great Austrian cyclist, Adolf Christian, who placed third in a late 1950s TDF, riding a Capo Sieger of that era. (By 1960, the Sieger had high-flange Campag. hubs instead of low-flange Capo hubs, Campag. Gran Sport derailleurs instead of Capo Simplex-like direct link front and bandspring rear units, and centerpull brakes.)
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Maybe the video quality isn't good enough to detect it but it looks like the tires are blackwall. When did tanwall tires come into vogue?
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Maybe the video quality isn't good enough to detect it but it looks like the tires are blackwall. When did tanwall tires come into vogue?
Must be the video quality. This is Wim van Est, from the '54 video:

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