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Old 07-20-17, 07:10 AM   #51
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Here is my '89 PRE purchased 5 years ago for 120.00, was kept in the back room of a bike shop, paint was cherry. I thoroughly enjoyed the ride until giving it over to my son. Here is a pic from a few years back.

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Any concerns about the corrosion at the seat cluster?
The paint bubbling is over the aluminum lugs. Aluminum's oxide is non-corrosive (actually protective), so the bubbling is probably just due to some contaminents messing with the paint.
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nice livery for the PRE... should look even better with patina ;-)

i learned just recently that the steel front-end and backends + the forks on the Olympian (at least) were of japanese origin.

that explains why the fork accepts a 27.0 diameter crown race rather than a 26.4 (which is why I had quite a bit of filing to do until the campy HS could fit, and then I realized it gave me a stack height problem, AKA the locknut won't engage because it's too thick...)
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I put together this Heat earlier this year for a friend's oldest kid. I was worried an 8-year old boy wouldn't be down with hot pink grips, but he's cool. The frame is really nice, and it I'd love to find one in my size, the color is so rad.
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Here's the 1990 Technium info from my catalogue & price list.

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1990 Olympian, Shimano 300EX, $375-$425
1990 Supercourse, 6061 T8 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, Shimano 400EX, $45-$525.
1990 Grand Prix, 6061 T8 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, SunTour Radius, $550-$625
1990 Prestige, Easton E9 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, Shimano RX100, $600-$700
1990 Pro, Easton E9 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, Shimano 105SC, $875-750

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1990 Obsession, 6061 T8 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, Shimano 300LX, $450-$500
1990 Heat, 6061 T8 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, Shimano 500LX, $525-$575
1990 Instinct LX, Easton E9 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, Shimano Deore LX, $575-$650
1990 Instinct XCD, Easton E9 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, SunTour XCD, $625-$7000
1990 Chill, Easton E9 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, Shimano Deore DX, $675-$750
1990 Peak, Easton E9 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, Shimano Deore XT, $950-$1050

Hybrid:

1990 Olympian CX, 6061 T8 aluminum, w/CrMo stays & fork, Shimano 300LX, $425-$450

I believe I also have 1991 & 1992 price lists. I also have sporadic info on pre-1990 Technium models from road tests, advertisements, etc. I will slowly add these to the thread. The OP may want to ammend post #1, to include these, to make it an easier to find resource.
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Old 08-01-17, 03:03 PM   #56
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1991 models. Sorry, no info on stay & fork mat'l.

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1991 Olympian FT, 6061 T6 aluminum, Shimano 300EX/LX, $435
1991 Supercourse FT, 6061 T8 aluminum, Shimano 500EX/LX, $560
1991 Grand Prix, 6061 T8 aluminum, SunTour Radius, $535
1991 Pro, Easton E9 aluminum, Shimano 105SC, $760
1991 Competition, Reynolds 531, Shimano 600 Ultegra, $1200
1991, Team, Reynolds 753, Shimano Dura-Ace STI, $2000

ATB:

1991 Obsession, 6061 T8 aluminum, Shimano 400LX, $515
1991 Heat, 6061 T8 aluminum, Shimano 500LX, $585
1991 Instinct, 6061 T8 aluminum, Shimano Deore LX/DX, $625
1991 Chill, Easton E9 aluminum, Shimano Deore DX, $750
1991 Peak, Easton E9 aluminum, Shimano Deore XT, $1050

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1991 Olympian CX, 6061 T8 aluminum, Shimano 300EX/LX, $475

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1992 line:

Road:

1992 Olympian, 6061 T6 aluminum,CrMo fork, Shimano 300EX, $419
1992 Supercourse FT, 6061 T8 aluminum, CrMo fork, Shimano 500EX/LX, $625
1992 Pro, Easton E9 aluminum, CrMo fork, Shimano 105SC, $854
1992 Competition, Reynolds 531, Reynolds 531 fork, Shimano 600 Ultegra STI, $1406
1992 Team, Reynolds 753, Reynolds 753 fork, Shimano Dura-Ace STI, $2317

ATB:

1992 Heat, 6061 T8 aluminum, CrMo fork, Shimano Deore LX, $636
1992 Chill, Easton E9 aluminum, CrMo fork, Shimano Deore DX, $782
1992 Peak, Easton E9 aluminum, aluminum fork, Shimano Deore XT, $1094
1992 Sheer, Easton E9 aluminum w/carbon fibre wrap, Rock Shox Mag 20, Shimano Deore XT, $1552

Hybrid:

1992 Dash AL, 6061 T8 aluminum w/CrMo stays and forks, Shimano 300LX, $460
1992 Dash MAX, 6061 T8 aluminum w/CrMo stays and forks, Shimano 500CX, $545
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This one was donated to our bike co-op recently. It looks like it is original except for the seat. Remarkably clean too!





EDITED TO ADD THE SERIAL NUMBER: R808560130

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Here's a Reynolds 531 Technium at our local co-op. Unfortunately, it's been hit in front and you can see wrinkles in the top and town tubes back from the head tube. Shame.
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@Aubergine @thumpism: if you get a chance, note the serial numbers on those bikes and edit them into your posts, for posterity.
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@Aubergine @thumpism: if you get a chance, note the serial numbers on those bikes and edit them into your posts, for posterity.
Oh, good idea. I will be back in the co-op Thursday and will look for it then.
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Old 10-04-17, 05:30 PM   #62
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This one was donated to our bike co-op recently. It looks like it is original except for the seat. Remarkably clean too!
I actually put a deposit on one of those pinkish/purplish ones back around '88. I couldn't complete the purchase, though. I think the white saddle goes good with the bike frame and bar tape. Silver, polished rack would be better, in my eyes, though.
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What a long wheelbase!

Mine is a 58cm, and the wheelbase is 1004 with a 38mm rake fork, which is pretty average. If you want to shorten yours, you can use dropout adjusters.
The Tech 440's had 27" wheels. Raleigh USA didn't change to 700c till 1988.
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Mine's a 23" (58cm) 440 and the wheelbase is 41" 1045!

Yep, I just re-measured and I got 39.5 inches, which is 1004mm. The relatively laid-back geometry on the older (86-87) Techniums, the 27" wheels, the presence of eyelets on the bottom of the seat stays, and the softer aluminum (6013-T6) suggests that in the first two years, Raleigh USA was gearing the Techniums more toward the recreational/sport rider than something specifically built for speed.
The pics I originally posted of my Technium were shot in the dark and not particularly appealing, so I thought I'd send some outdoor snaps along, especially to compare side-view geometry with Chuc's:
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I think the head is 72 degrees and seat tube 73. Touring bike geometry on something looking like a sport bike?

That's pretty close to parallel, so you can storm with this bike if you want. I think its more of a roadie than a tourer.

I'm wondering about the development history. Was the Technium idea from Huffy during their license, did they buy it the technology or did Derby create the technique and Kent factory?
The way I (currently) understand it is that the Techniums came out during the Derby ownership, not the Huffy one.

Those blue Tech 440's are beautiful-looking bikes. How do you like the ride?
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Regarding the Derby ownership of Raleigh USA in 86-87, yes, I see what you are saying about tooling up and drawing plans for such an innovative bike. The Olympic cycle team that won several medals on Techniums did it in '84, but I have heard that these were Italian-designed and built. I would like to know more about these olympic bikes.



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One ride around the neighborhood and I'm thinking meh. Maybe it will change after a couple hundred miles.
When I first rode my Technium, I noticed that it did not give the feedback and ride with the "personality" of my previous bike, an '80 Raleigh Gran Prix. The ride was not as responsive or "lively". On my long rides, though, I am not looking for personality: I only want lightness, good energy return and nimbility, and I get those things and more from the Technium. The weight trade-off is worth it, and I think that's what Raleigh was going for. I'm not sure if the steel parts of the bicycle translate into a nicer ride, but it is very likely that they do to some extent.
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Finally got to go on a ride with my new 89 Pre.

First 15 mile impressions:

-Feels fast!
-Very smooth ride, much more so than my other aluminum bike, a 2012 Jamis. That one is a bit of a boneshaker.
-Need more saddle setback, I'm hoping it's not too hard to find a seatpost that will help with that
-Friction shifting across the 8 speed cassette worked great!
-Shifting up in to the big ring is a bit lethargic
-I really like it

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Has anybody thought about the assembly process on the Technium frames? Normally you would build the front triangle and then assemble the rear triangle. But, if you brazed it together, you would be heating up the BB and seat lug red hot after gluing!
Silver solder and it wouldn't be quite as hot, but the dropout is still brazed, so that would be three processes.
The 440 uses socketed seat stay caps, so it could be bonded, but the CityLite has the seat stays brazed to the sides of the seat lug.
My MT500 up on the first page could have had the rear triangle brazed up, then the top and down tubes jigged and glued, mitered, and the head tube welded. But how could they have done the earlier ones efficiently?
I have heard that they heated the lugs and then inserted the maintubes, which had a locking collar of sorts that "snapped" into place. I'll see if I can find the diagram for you. So, not only was the flux part of the bonding, but the locking ring on the lugs and the contraction of the lugs created a solid fit. I'm not sure what you are saying about the brazing of the stays onto the mainframe. The bb and lugs are steel, so it was no problem, as long as they kept the aluminum below melting temperature. I would love to find out everything about the process. The Technium should have had an article of its own in Popular Mechanics.
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Finally got to go on a ride with my new 89 Pre.

First 15 mile impressions:

-Feels fast!
-Very smooth ride, much more so than my other aluminum bike, a 2012 Jamis. That one is a bit of a boneshaker.
-Need more saddle setback, I'm hoping it's not too hard to find a seatpost that will help with that
-Friction shifting across the 8 speed cassette worked great!
-Shifting up in to the big ring is a bit lethargic
-I really like it
I'm glad you like the Technium! Nice wheels. What were you feeling that made you decide you'd like a seatpost with more setback?
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I'm glad you like the Technium! Nice wheels. What were you feeling that made you decide you'd like a seatpost with more setback?
Thanks,

The wheels aren't exactly what I want to use on this forever, but I needed a wheelset and they were an absolute steal at $50 for a ~1600g wheelset with two sets of tires and a big box of goodies.

I feel like I need some more setback because in order to get proper pelvis rotation I have to be sitting almost on the back edge of the saddle. I may try a bit higher nose before I buy parts, but getting the right saddle position is always a struggle for my anatomy it seems.
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Anyone have any tips for keeping the rear brake housing from bouncing around inside the top tube?

Rougher roads have been generating a rather annoying recurring *ping*. Honestly, it wouldn't bother me much, but the drivetrain is totally silent, so every little noise jumps out at me.

If I'm able to solve this little problem, it will be the quietest bike I have ever ridden (maybe aside from my old fixed gear).
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Here is my 1986 440

I found scans of the 1986 catalog and it appears some of the components were changed. My hubs are Maillard(rear stamped "25" "86" so it's correct for year of mfg) and the catalog lists they should be Suntour. Shifters, front and rear detailers should be Suntour but are Shimano. Crank/BB, freewheel, pedals, rims, bar/stem, headset, seat post and brakes are correct. She even had all the reflectors on the frame, pedals and wheels. When removing components and bagging them, it appeared they had never been moved or replaced. I had no doubts to it's "virginity" until I found the catalog. I suspect that since this is a very early model; component groups may have been substituted, much like Ford used to do. i suppose however, there is no way to verify it. The seat and tires were the only two parts that I know for sure were not original. Otherwise she looked pristine. I converted her to a single speed and I love it. It has become one of my favorite bikes I've ever owned. She has great curb appeal and the classic Raleigh aesthetic.










The current rear hub is a Shimano 600 UG; the Maillard is being repurposed for a trailer build I currently have in progress. I left the front Maillard hub untouched

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Your bike appears to be the same year as mine. Would it be possible to list your components? I'd be interested to know if your 440 has Maillard hubs and shimano shifters and deraillers.

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Your bike appears to be the same year as mine. Would it be possible to list your components? I'd be interested to know if your 440 has Maillard hubs and shimano shifters and deraillers.

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Suntour shifters & derailleurs, hubs have an SR on them.
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