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Old 02-28-17, 04:03 PM
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Yeah, I just returned a Brooks saddle because the badge was of a few mm. Maybe I'd be the only one who noticed, but I'm also the one who will look at it the most.

It's good that the clear was baked a bit and the decals aren't under it. I'd redo them. If the only risk is pulling up the clear, then don't pull them up. Mask them and sand them off.

But that's easy for me to say when the risk of making things worse is all yours.
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One of my bikin' buddies back in the 1980's bought a brand-new all-chrome Raleigh. It was made in Asia. The down-tube Raleigh decals were actually upside down. We laughed that the Chinese guys back at the factory didn't read English and probably didn't notice. He got a little discount on his purchase but the decals still annoyed him...
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It looks to me to be off by just enough to bother for now, but not enough to bother you in the future.

I agree the more important irritant is that the decal appears designed for the seat tube, not the down tube, as has been mentioned a few posts back. Is the blue panel painted? Because again, that looks a little weird in placement - the panel would normally be centered between the first bottle boss and the gear lever bosses.

I have a Colnago with the head badge decal applied almost an inch higher than it should be; obviously not centered. Used to bug me early on, but I hardly notice it these days; in fact, until I saw your thread, I'd forgotten all about it

YMMV.

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Old 02-28-17, 05:50 PM
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Time to listen to What Do You Want From Life by The Tubes.
Wow. Don't hear about Fee and company from anyone anymore.

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
It looks to me to be off by just enough to bother for now, but not enough to bother you in the future.

I agree the more important irritant is that the decal appears designed for the seat tube, not the down tube, as has been mentioned a few posts back. Is the blue panel painted? Because again, that looks a little weird in placement - the panel would normally be centered between the first bottle boss and the gear lever bosses.

I have a Colnago with the head badge decal applied almost an inch higher than it should be; obviously not centered. Used to bug me early on, but I hardly notice it these days; in fact, until I saw your thread, I'd forgotten all about it

YMMV.

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I was hoping the irritant would indeed be temporary which is why I waited a year!

Velocals gave me instructions for removing decals. I may give this a shot. As a test, I'll carefully remove a Columbus sticker and abort if it appears to be going wrong.

Yes, the panels are painted. Full bike:

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The decals wouldn't bother me. Wood paneling on the walls is another story.
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Ah, cool - I hope the decal removal goes okay

What are your plans afterward? I looked at the VeloCals and they all seem like full-panel decals. That would seem to negate the outlay of the painted panels. Are there other options out there?

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I agree with what those guys said...the use of seat tube decals on the down tube bothers me much more than the off-kilter thing.

Edit: I'm wrong...just checked the Trek catalog and those are the correct decals. Still look weird to me. I probably would have omitted the down tube decal.

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I agree with what those guys said...the use of seat tube decals on the down tube bothers me much more than the off-kilter thing.
Guys, this is Trek's factory original scheme for the Trek 957. They used seat tube decals for both the seat tube and the down tube.

These are individual letters without a panel.

TREK Vertical Seat Tube Decals - VeloCals
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I'm of the "if it doesn't affect function, I don't care" crowd, but I also believe we each get to decide what's important to us.

So, while I wouldn't care, I understand why the OP might and wish him the best. He, and only, has to decide how big an issue this is, and it seems that it is given that he posted here. But he also has to balance that against the risk and/or cost of fixing the problem.

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Some years back, someone bought a pair of Kingsbridge cone wrenches from me. After getting them he emailed asking me to exchange one because the chrome plating wasn't perfect. I wrote back that the wrench is guarantied, but that was mechanical only and cosmetics weren't covered. I added that these were production items an we had plenty of latitude about what we considered OK, and those that didn't pass were sold as blems, & these weren't.


So, he asked if it would be OK if he came up to the warehouse and went through the stock and picked out a nice pair. I declined, and told him to send BOTH back for a full refund and buy some other brand of cone wrench. Which is where (after some more back and forth) we ended up.

I've always been this way, and while I understand that some people are OCD about bike stuff, and don't have a problem with it, I have zero interest in doing business with them.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
There are two types of people: those who divide the world into two types of people and those who don't.
Word.

Oh and the people that are nice enough not to nitpick at others bikes when they see your crooked decals you applied.

To them, I say thank you.
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Old 02-28-17, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post
Word.

Oh and the people that are nice enough not to nitpick at others bikes when they see your crooked decals you applied.

To them, I say thank you.
Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I just meant there are people it bugs and people it doesn't
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post
Word.

Oh and the people that are nice enough not to nitpick at others bikes when they see your crooked decals you applied.
I hope I read this right.

I know that there are people who obsess over small details like this, and people who simply don't care. But I always assumed we were talking about one's own bike.

Are you implying that there are axe holes that would comment over stuff like this on someone else's bike? If so, they form third group, and one that I have no tolerance for.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
I hope I read this right.

I know that there are people who obsess over small details like this, and people who simply don't care. But I always assumed we were talking about one's own bike.

Are you implying that there are axe holes that would comment over stuff like this on someone else's bike? If so, they form third group, and one that I have no tolerance for.
I dont imply, but rather assuming that among the tens of thousands of members there could be those that would point out a flaw in someone's hard work. But then, I run that risk posting pics.

I'm enjoying this thread and the brutal honesty of it. And I love that Trek and would leave it as it is.

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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
I hope I read this right.

I know that there are people who obsess over small details like this, and people who simply don't care. But I always assumed we were talking about one's own bike.

Are you implying that there are axe holes that would comment over stuff like this on someone else's bike? If so, they form third group, and one that I have no tolerance for.
@FBinNY, I have encountered these types here, and out on the world, several times. Not too many in C&V though, fortunately. Some folks just need to point out other's mistakes and errors, I have no idea what drives these types.

I do agree with your way of dealing with this third type completely.

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Time for some levity maybe ? Here is the camper I spoke of that used to be white with a rotted canvas and caved in rear panel. 1988 Coleman Columbia. I built it for my daughter and I.
It's a 10 footer, as in looks best from 10 feet or more. The inside got a total remodel as well. Couldn't stand the wood grain. Not a whole lot different than building a bike.
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Time for some levity maybe ? Here is the camper I spoke of that used to be white with a rotted canvas and caved in rear panel. 1988 Coleman Columbia......
Cool, but are the decals on straight?
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It would bug me too. Largely because you're looking down at it all the time. Fertile ground for obsession. If it were more out of sight while in the saddle it wouldn't be a big deal.

Maybe subconscious fear of this is why I never got around to applying decals after i repainted.
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When I go for a fix on something like this I often make things worse overall, or sometimes barely claw my way to still-not-right-but-better. Only rarely do I get it dead-on, spectacularly correct, so the majority of cases leave me cursing my inability to leave well enough alone. I've learned to pick my battles.

...And that is one fine-looking Trek.
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Originally Posted by davester View Post
If it was an Italian bike then an off center decal would be the way it came from the factory.
Of course, many of the Italian decals would soon self-resolve any alignment issues by disintegrating or falling off.
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Well I ordered replacement decals. I'm hoping it is as simple as fingernails and heat gun. If not, I'll abort after attempting the small Columbus tubing sticker.
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Well I ordered replacement decals. I'm hoping it is as simple as fingernails and heat gun. If not, I'll abort after attempting the small Columbus tubing sticker.
I don't have a dog in this fight, and wish you well in doing this. Just a thought before you begin.

Sometimes it's better to leave bad enough alone.
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I don't have a dog in this fight, and wish you well in doing this. Just a thought before you begin.

Sometimes it's better to leave bad enough alone.
What makes you think it will go wrong? Decals won't cleanly remove or I'll reapply new ones just as crooked?

This bugs the hell out of me. I've gone a year and it still bugs the hell out of me. At this point if I botch it I woudl be tempted to just repaint the entire bike.
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What makes you think it will go wrong? Decals won't cleanly remove or I'll reapply new ones just as crooked?

This bugs the hell out of me. I've gone a year and it still bugs the hell out of me. At this point if I botch it I woudl be tempted to just repaint the entire bike.
I told you I don't have a don't have a dog in the fight and I don't.

It's not that I think anything will go wrong, just that it might, leaving you worse off than before.

However, if you've considered that and consider repainting the frame better than having to live with the crooked decals, then you've made the decision and you have my best wishes for success one way or the other.
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