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Old 03-02-17, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Scarbo
Have a listen to Claudio Arrau's 1963 live performance in Lugano, Switzerland. It's incomparable. **** End of Self-Indulgence ****
Not self-indulgence at all. Music is a necessity.

Where does one find Claudio Arrau's performance from 1963? On youtube? Available on CD or as a download? I confess I stopped paying much attention to pianists some years ago. My mom was a pianist. I play music also but of a very different nature. I do like keyboard music but listen more to stuff played on large pipe organs.

One could say bikes are a necessity too.
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Old 03-02-17, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmuller
Not self-indulgence at all. Music is a necessity.

Where does one find Claudio Arrau's performance from 1963? On youtube? Available on CD or as a download? I confess I stopped paying much attention to pianists some years ago. My mom was a pianist. I play music also but of a very different nature. I do like keyboard music but listen more to stuff played on large pipe organs.

One could say bikes are a necessity too.
I agree: bikes and music are necessities of life! My mom was my first piano teacher, too.

Do a search on YouTube: Claudio Arrau Gaspard de la Nuit (Ravel)

Well, if you are an aficionado of organ music, it might be worthwhile to mention that while the French were producing all of these marvelous bikes and establishing its fantastic cycling traditions in the last century, they also had what amounted to the richest tradition of organ music in the world, supported by the likes of composers like Charles-Marie Widor, Louis Vierne (who actually died, during a performance, at his beloved keyboard at the great organ of the Notre-Dame de Paris!), Cesar Franck, Maurice Duruflé and other greats.

Whoever posited that the French have no originality, earlier in this thread, really did not know what he was talking about or was being purposely provocative (the best tubes came from Britain, or something like that)! So much of the time in French culture, the whole of an object comprises something much, much greater than the sum of its parts.

Another tip: Louis Vierne, Organ Symphony No. 3 in F# minor (especially the Adagio). To hear this live, played by a really good organist, is an amazing experience. Typically French, super subtle and transporting. Oddly enough. I first heard it while on a little road cycling vacation in Utah (Salt Lake City) a couple of years ago. Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by El Chaba
True...but the act would not have been nearly as awesome if performed on a Miyata or Schwinn....This was a finger in the eye to all of the people who thought that all French bikes were Peugeot UO8's with Delrin Simplexes and cottered cranks....
Peugeot won the Tour de France ten times. That's even more than Schwinn, I think.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
For me, the boon or bane of C&V French bicycles has always been their metric sized tubesets. Depending on your riding style and preference, they could slightly whippy or wonderfully compliant, compared to a bicycle with similar geometry built from imperial sized tubing.

+100, given my limited experience. But then I'm 200# +/- 5.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Peugeot won the Tour de France ten times. That's even more than Schwinn, I think.
You're joking about Schwinn, right? I don't remember seeing a Schwinn on any Tour.
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Originally Posted by noglider
You're joking about Schwinn, right? I don't remember seeing a Schwinn on any Tour.


I think I saw one on the Tour of Smith County (century) back in 1983....
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I bet Schwinns have delivered more newspapers...

Schwinn's heyday was really quite neatly placed during the decades when bike racing was not very popular in the USA.
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Originally Posted by noglider
You're joking about Schwinn, right? I don't remember seeing a Schwinn on any Tour.
Of course. But hey, I didn't start!

I've been following the Tour de France since the mid-seventies, and until I joined this forum in 2009 I'd never even heard of Schwinn. Sometimes BF feels like a parallel universe ...
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
... until I joined this forum in 2009 I'd never even heard of Schwinn.
What continent are you from, guy? Oh, wait, the other one.

Betcha never heard of Columbia either.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
What's so special about French bikes??

Personally, I feel that my 84 Peugeot PY10FC ticks all the boxes I have for what my personal, ultmate grail bike should have, but the best thing about it is it's "Tout French" except for only the tires and the saddle (Standard from the factory and used by the Peugeot team, Weinmann Carrera 400 brrakeset, Schwalbe Milano tubulars and Selle Italia Turbo /saddle, but I do have Micheline SSC tubs ready as my next pair for the bike). but I'm so happy how everything else, al French prts and components went together and resuted in the bike I now have.....
Heck, I'll take on a French build anytime before anything else (even an exotic Italian). Does someone have an 83 Gitane Pro (Lemond/Fignon/Hinault race bike replica) they can sell me asap??.....Or maybe even a Turbo Mecacycle??
But maybe I'm also partiial to French bikes because I grew up as a kid in the 70's with my father buying and loving cars like a Peugeot 404 Pinninfarina coupe, a couple of Renault 16TS' and a Renault 17 Gordini......
Is that a flat black frame ?? If so, never see a Peugeot that color. Nice
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Originally Posted by sdn40
Is that a flat black frame ?? If so, never see a Peugeot that color. Nice
Unpainted Carbon Fiber........ the "FC" in the model name meant "Fibre de Carbone"
Peugeot's first CF bike. Model run was from 83 to maybe 85 in some markets. Used with excellent results by the pro/factory team in the mid 80's in races like the TDF.
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Originally Posted by Chombi
Unpainted Carbon Fiber........ the "FC" in the model name meant "Fibre de Carbone"
Peugeot's first CF bike. Model run was from 83 to maybe 85 in some markets. Used with excellent results by the pro/factory team in the mid 80's in races like the TDF.
AHHHH unpainted / unglossed CF --- Thats a cool look against the orange yellow and white
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Originally Posted by Bandera

For a vintage race bike: Vitus 979, accept no substitutes.

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That's good to know. I had a Vitus 979 that I knew nothing about and just gave away. Fortunately, it was to my brother. Now I can tell him what he has.
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That's good to know. I had a Vitus 979 that I knew nothing about and just gave away. Fortunately, it was to my brother. Now I can tell him what he has.
Here's mine, converted to 10 cog drivetrain a few seasons ago.

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Those old Constructeur bikes are outstanding builds with unique touches and accessories. Thankfully that bug did not bite. Although I regret a miss on a 50's Randonneur, it might have lead me down the rabbit hole.
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What continent are you from, guy? Oh, wait, the other one.

Betcha never heard of Columbia either.
No, I hadn't. But then the 'engine-less motorcycle' concept never really made it in Europe. I think it has something to do with the Americans embracing the automobile much earlier than Europeans as daily transportation, thereby relegating the bicycle to the toy department. It makes a difference whether your cycling hero is Fausto Coppi or Pee-wee Herman.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
No, I hadn't. But then the 'engine-less motorcycle' concept never really made it in Europe. I think it has something to do with the Americans embracing the automobile much earlier than Europeans as daily transportation, thereby relegating the bicycle to the toy department. It makes a difference whether your cycling hero is Fausto Coppi or Pee-wee Herman.
That's Priceless

Pee-Wee rode a schwinn didn't He?
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speciale' ?

coz some are orange

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Originally Posted by Bandera
Here's mine, converted to 10 cog drivetrain a few seasons ago.

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And here's mine after it's been butchered for non-cyclist use.

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They're Not ALL Racebikes...

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That's Priceless

Pee-Wee rode a schwinn didn't He?
Likely a Schwinn DX. And yes, it was priceless. Savor the moment, non-fixie.
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I think what makes French bikes so special is that you will never see one that is "identical" to yours on the road.
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Here is Gypsy Bleu, my vélo de randonnée:




I'm in LOVE with that chainguard!!! And you already know how I feel about that rear rack!
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