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Old 03-03-17, 09:33 AM
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OK it's been a few months since we talked chainstay protectors

Since I would rather spend several hours and lots of money on something that would be easier taken care of with a few minutes search on eBay, I've decided to make a few chain stay protectors. This was discussed last fall, but it geared more towards sources for buying rather than making. I want a chrome like protector but also thinking of some clear as well. Looking to see of any success stories along these lines.

I made a half-assed effort back then at using some aluminum tape for one, but it went badly. The tape wrinkles easily and tends to stick to itself, quickly making a kindergartener's mess. I recently had to make a repair to a heating duct, so the tape came out and wants to get used once gain.

This time I came up with the idea of putting the tape onto an adhesive paper to stiffen it up. It worked nicely except the adhesive on the paper isn't robust enough and by this AM the edges have started to pop up. Application of some rubber cement around the edges didn't really help. I think for phase 2 I'll get some clear vinyl adhesive paper for a top layer and make it a little bigger than the remainder. I'm looking at this stuff:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A3D25858O4I0P6

I considered clear on top of the aluminum tape without the adhesive paper but that stuff has some serious sticky to it and I think it will definitely pull the paint with it when it comes off - I'm looking for a happy medium somewhere. I'd be interested in ideas on this. Maybe an application of some other adhesive to the back of the sticky paper.

Ultimately (Phase 3) I'd like to apply some logo decal to these to bling them up. Of course, that's only if I have time after getting involved in all the scrapbooking clubs after buying these arts and craft supplies.
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I chose a slightly different DIY route-- I already have the rotating punch from other projects and materials, so I just mixed in a bag of scrap leather from Michael's crafts, some waxed thread, and leatherworking needles pilfered from the Scouting supplies. Bought about 8 bucks worth of stuff (coupons!) which was enough to make, oh, I dunno, like a dozen of these.



I can't quite get the color to match the saddle, but it's close enough. I didn't even consider trying for clear-- my small is a 42-11, and so chain sits about 1/2" above the stay. On bumpy descents (which is all descents around here) the chain just thumps away at the leather.
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Two words come to mind, durability and serviceability.
Durability in terms of actually protecting the chain stay. A slapping chain can impart a lot of force when it impinges on paint. I can't accept any stick type material to be robust enough.

[IMG]P1020067 by superissimo_83, on Flickr[/IMG]

The sticky part leads to...
Serviceabiltiy is necessary in terms of being able to clean the stay occasionally. No edge is going to seal well enough over time to prevent water and dirt from getting under the protector, so it needs to be easily removed and clean.

Lizardskins makes one i use on my RockHopper: https://www.amazon.com/Lizard-Skins-.../dp/B00A3G1Z82
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There have been a few production touring bikes that used spokes to protect the bike. Doubles as spare spokes, of course:

image courtesy of @crank_addict post to @jyl original question

BTW, anybody seen jyl? I think he was headed over to France to visit his daughter? Sumpin like dat?

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@gugie, please fix your post. It is making the display of this page too wide.
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Cotton bar tape. Super glue on the ends. Works great, looks great. Better with shellac.
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@gugie, please fix your post. It is making the display of this page too wide.
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This VO leather one works well for me. Obviously a leather protector could be DIYed with some leather, scissors, and double stick tape. For a few bux, it was easier for me to buy. Scraping fuzz of the back of leather without the right tool is a pain.



In Ye Olde days the top routed rear derailleur cable double as an inefficient chainstay protector, though it didn't really work that well. Typically the chainstay got dinged towards the back on the inside, but no one worried about it.
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This VO leather one works well for me.
Doesn't it trap moisture against the frame?
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Originally Posted by TenGrainBread View Post
Cotton bar tape. Super glue on the ends. Works great, looks great. Better with shellac.
+1. Newbaum's cloth is what we used for my daughter's MTB build this winter. No shellac though.
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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
There have been a few production touring bikes that used spokes to protect the bike. Doubles as spare spokes, of course:

image courtesy of @crank_addict post to @jyl original question

BTW, anybody seen jyl? I think he was headed over to France to visit his daughter? Sumpin like dat?

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Hey, rumors of my passing are greatly exaggerated!

Although, if I don't stop getting fatter and start riding my bike, those rumors may be truer than I'd like. I am currently on a DIET. As Garfield calls it, a DIE t.

@gugie, I have been meaning to see you as I brought you a present from France . . .

And to all, I am working with Velocult to organize the Spring 2017 edition of Velocirque. Date TBA but likely to be late April. Similar to last year - C&V one day, Modern Custom other day. I will be participating on a motor scooter if I haven't regrown my legs by then.
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I make my own with the heaviest gauge aluminum HVAC tape I can find and with careful application (and some burnishing with a plastic or bone tool) it looks very smooth and shiny from a 6-foot distance. On a stay that gets a lot of chain slap I double it up. So far so good so haven't tried a clear vinyl overlay...not sure I'd want that.
Used one of my "dinosaur" stainless steel protectors as a pattern and WISH somebody would bring those back, they can't be THAT hard to manufacture and I'm sure they'd sell!
The current offerings at retail are just plain inferior.
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I make my own with the heaviest gauge aluminum HVAC tape I can find and with careful application (and some burnishing with a plastic or bone tool) it looks very smooth and shiny from a 6-foot distance. On a stay that gets a lot of chain slap I double it up. So far so good so haven't tried a clear vinyl overlay...not sure I'd want that.
Used one of my "dinosaur" stainless steel protectors as a pattern and WISH somebody would bring those back, they can't be THAT hard to manufacture and I'm sure they'd sell!
The current offerings at retail are just plain inferior.
Do you stick the tape directly on the stay? Any problems with that?
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Doesn't it trap moisture against the frame?
Not that I've noticed. I did give it a coat or two of paste wax to make it a bit more resistant to water and dirt. It seems to not get that wet, and dries pretty fast.
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Do you stick the tape directly on the stay? Any problems with that?
Yes and so far no problem. This aluminum will never last like the old stainless jobs but it's the best I can do as home-brew.
I find that if there's any adhesive residue (when old crappy tape has to come off) naptha does a great job and won't damage (cured) paint or powdercoat. Zippo (not BBQ) lighter fluid is naptha with perfume added.
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I was thinking of trying Plasti-Dip
It checks all the boxes as far as I can tell, most importantly, very forgiving
I figure you can mask off easily (if you want), apply with a brush, have a rubberized texture, one size fits all, assorted colors, its been used in the automotive industry extensively, one can gives you hundreds of applications, and peels off easily guaranteed. Was thinking it would also work well on cables where you want frame protection.

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I bought a chrome-look vinyl one back when he started all this..... still using it.

The best were by far, for me, the Soma pre-formed ones. I liked them.
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It's almost spring. Before you know it we can start a chain lube thread,
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Wrapped with some leather strips.
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I'm with Robbie, I should have bought more when the Soma stainless ones were still made.


Gios aluminum chainstay protector .
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Anybody tried clear helicopter tape? We use it for lots of things on our race boats. Pretty tough stuff. Nice feature is that the adhesive holds well, but lets go without any drama and without pulling paint off when it's time to remove it to apply fresh.
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Outstanding, good news!



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Although, if I don't stop getting fatter and start riding my bike, those rumors may be truer than I'd like. I am currently on a DIET. As Garfield calls it, a DIE t.

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3M makes emblem and trim tape that would be bullitproof for for this. Comes in different thickness's and would offer more barrier against both moisture and damage as it is a very tough foam substance, very sticky, and can be removed with some effort. It can be a little spendy and is found at some auto parts stores, auto body supply, etc.




I made a half-assed effort back then at using some aluminum tape for one, but it went badly. The tape wrinkles easily and tends to stick to itself, quickly making a kindergartener's mess. I recently had to make a repair to a heating duct, so the tape came out and wants to get used once gain.

This time I came up with the idea of putting the tape onto an adhesive paper to stiffen it up. It worked nicely except the adhesive on the paper isn't robust enough and by this AM the edges have started to pop up. Application of some rubber cement around the edges didn't really help. I think for phase 2 I'll get some clear vinyl adhesive paper for a top layer and make it a little bigger than the remainder. I'm looking at this stuff:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A3D25858O4I0P6

I considered clear on top of the aluminum tape without the adhesive paper but that stuff has some serious sticky to it and I think it will definitely pull the paint with it when it comes off - I'm looking for a happy medium somewhere. I'd be interested in ideas on this. Maybe an application of some other adhesive to the back of the sticky paper.

Ultimately (Phase 3) I'd like to apply some logo decal to these to bling them up. Of course, that's only if I have time after getting involved in all the scrapbooking clubs after buying these arts and craft supplies.[/QUOTE]
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3M makes emblem and trim tape that would be bullitproof for for this. Comes in different thickness's and would offer more barrier against both moisture and damage as it is a very tough foam substance, very sticky, and can be removed with some effort. It can be a little spendy and is found at some auto parts stores, auto body supply, etc.




I made a half-assed effort back then at using some aluminum tape for one, but it went badly. The tape wrinkles easily and tends to stick to itself, quickly making a kindergartener's mess. I recently had to make a repair to a heating duct, so the tape came out and wants to get used once gain.

This time I came up with the idea of putting the tape onto an adhesive paper to stiffen it up. It worked nicely except the adhesive on the paper isn't robust enough and by this AM the edges have started to pop up. Application of some rubber cement around the edges didn't really help. I think for phase 2 I'll get some clear vinyl adhesive paper for a top layer and make it a little bigger than the remainder. I'm looking at this stuff:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A3D25858O4I0P6

I considered clear on top of the aluminum tape without the adhesive paper but that stuff has some serious sticky to it and I think it will definitely pull the paint with it when it comes off - I'm looking for a happy medium somewhere. I'd be interested in ideas on this. Maybe an application of some other adhesive to the back of the sticky paper.

Ultimately (Phase 3) I'd like to apply some logo decal to these to bling them up. Of course, that's only if I have time after getting involved in all the scrapbooking clubs after buying these arts and craft supplies.
[/QUOTE]

When I could no longer get those beautiful but a little short polished aluminum Campagnolo and Shimano protectors I had a similar journey as you. I ended up with ski saver tape. The roll I found is 2.5" X 50' and it is now on probably a dozen bikes for the family and a half dozen more I have sold in the last few years. No more frame cable rub or dropped chain (BB or chain stay) paint/chrome damage.
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Looks like you can still get these out of Mexico. https://www.bianchimexico.com/produc...ctor-de-cadena
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