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Old 03-12-17, 09:15 PM
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What's up with Allegro

I've been looking for an Allegro to add to my collection. Origianally they were very available but non seem to come up for sale. I have been watching for a couple years. Any ideas why?
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There have been three on California CL in recent months. One in Hemet, one in Los Angeles area & one in San Francisco area. At least two of the three seemed overvalued by their sellers so they may be yet available.

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There have been three on California CL in recent months. One in Hemet, one in Los Angeles area & one in San Francisco area. At least two of the three seemed overvalued by their sellers so they may be yet available.

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I mostly use eBay. Very few Allegros have shown up there. You would think there would be more. One did come up a few months ago. Good shape and reasonable price. Should have jumped on it.

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I was looking at one awhile back, not local. I liked it and the price was right, (still hard buying from a distance). So i let it go. The lug work is nice and the paint jobs on some Allegro's, with different color highlighting on lugs is cool. I think they put the serial number in a different than normal spot. All and all pretty nice, for oft used, good ole Reynolds 531 bike, of that period.
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Allegros were not that common even back in the day. There were more Mondias, Bertins, Stellas than Allegros and none of the brands mentioned show up like clockwork. I did see one of them that surfaced on CL, rare does not equate to sought after. Nice bike, not really worthy of a premium, from the perspective of selling at a decent price later.
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I wonder if Craig Griffith might still have some framesets for sale. He bought the "barn stash" from the USA importer's estate some years back and was selling them off but that stash may be gone now. try googling his name with "the Swiss Bicycle" added and see if you get an email address.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
Allegros were not that common even back in the day. There were more Mondias, Bertins, Stellas than Allegros and none of the brands mentioned show up like clockwork. I did see one of them that surfaced on CL, rare does not equate to sought after. Nice bike, not really worthy of a premium, from the perspective of selling at a decent price later.
At least Allegros had the bottom bracket fixed cup threading right (or should I say, "left" ), unlike the French and Italian bikes of the 1950s into 1970s.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
Allegros were not that common even back in the day. There were more Mondias, Bertins, Stellas than Allegros and none of the brands mentioned show up like clockwork. I did see one of them that surfaced on CL, rare does not equate to sought after. Nice bike, not really worthy of a premium, from the perspective of selling at a decent price later.
I am not so sure about that. Bikeology sold these, I assume in numbers. I went to the Univ of Colo Boulder and the Spoke bike shop in Boulder sold many. Could be that these were isolated, but it seems they were readily available. But, apparently, not no more.
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There were never all that many BITD. So, after normal attrition before anyone thought to collect them, the remaining number is small, and probably most have found a home by now. You'll have to wait for one of your fellow collectors to die, get divorced, or just need some cash to see some come onto the market.

Of course some may still be discovered in a basement or garage, but it's been two generations, so there won't be many undiscovered ones anymore.
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There were never all that many BITD. So, after normal attrition before anyone thought to collect them, the remaining number is small, and probably most have found a home by now. You'll have to wait for one of your fellow collectors to die, get divorced, or just need some cash to see some come onto the market.

Of course some may still be discovered in a basement or garage, but it's been two generations, so there won't be many undiscovered ones anymore.
Do not know what bitd means, but there were Allegros all over Colorado in the 1970s. Even if the total remaining is small, and I agree that it might be that case that overall they might be rare. However, what proves your hypothesis incorrect is a previous post that references several Allegros are available on CL. That is great news for me since I do not usually frequent CL. Just picked up an Allegro frame off CL. Looking at another complete Allegro on CL.

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Do not know what bitd means...
BITD = Back In The Day
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Any ideas why?
I love it.
Ask a question. Receive some very good answers and theories from very knowledgable members.
Then , mostly discount those answers.

Any ideas why?
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This one came out of a California garage sale about ten months ago for $75.00, so anything is still possible. The team jersey, I had to buy off eBay for almost as much as I paid for the bike.
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That first one is beautiful, every time I think of selling some of my bikes, something like that drags me back.
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This one appeared on Akron Ohio's craigslist fairly recently:


https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/bik/6013503052.html


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That first one is beautiful, every time I think of selling some of my bikes, something like that drags me back.
It is a very neat bike. No takers, though; it has been relisted for many months now.
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A photo of a framseet hanaging at a bike co-op was posted to the forum a few days ago.

Appears to date from ca. 1970 and is in original finish.

Size looks to be in the vicissitude of 53-54cm.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikeforu...a11ed70697.jpg

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