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Old 03-19-17, 11:28 AM
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Mystery bike ID

Okay, I'm going to try again. Does this head decal look familiar to anyone? The bike is from the Piedmont region of Italy. The legible lettering on the decal reads:

"Cicli" across the top, "Ivrea" and "R.Daniele" along each lower side.



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Is seat tube transfer in any different state than the head tube one? Be they the same?


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Is seat tube transfer in any different state than the head tube one? Be they the same?


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Yes, they are the same:


@Oldairhead, it is a beautiful frame! I hope to see photos of it built up with ca 1960 Campagnolo, Universal, Ambrosio, Nisi, etc. Let me know if you want a suitable saddle for it, I can help with that!

As for your identifying the frame, though, I'm afraid all the questions have been asked, and answered as well as possible, in the first thread:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...u-help-id.html

I'm not going to add any new information here, but from what I knew already, adding what I learned in that thread, and following the links, especially perusing the pictures in this blog, I would sum up the situation as follows:

Assuming you read the words on your head badge correctly, which I do not doubt, the whole inscription was "CICLI R. DANIELE IVREA." Spacing may allow for something, not much, before IVREA.

Head badges from this area, at that time, tend to look more or less like this; and often the only inscription is "CICLI [name of person, first name abbreviatedl] [name of town.]" For example:


"CICLI R. TASSINARI, FAENZA"

The overall design of your badge is clear enough; an eagle, wings outstretched as if landing or taking off, standing on a mountain top or something; with a star overhead. There is no writing other than the inscription around the edge.

If a letter or a word is missing before IVREA, it serves only to modify Ivrea; that is, it might say something like North Ivrea, or Comune of Ivrea, but whatever it is, it probably wouldn't tell you a whole lot more than you already know.

I conclude that your frame was sold by and/or made by R. Daniele, who was either a bike shop or a frame builder (or both) in Ivrea between fifty and sixty years ago. As far as I can tell, this marque is not otherwise attested.

All we can do, for now, is collect this information and spell it out clearly so Google can find it. The next time someone googles "cicli daniele ivrea" they will find this thread and either learn something, or teach us something, and progress will be made. You might as a moderator to change the title of one of your threads to "Cicli R. Daniele, Ivrea."
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Thanks rhm for the excellent summary. I know the questions had been asked before, but I thought I would put it out there one more time to see if I caught a new set of eyes.

I did search thoroughly the blog you referenced as well as links within that blog with no real success, other than to confirm the similarities. There certainly appears to be a family connection with the era and region of the displayed badges and my example.

I will do a follow up post on the "Mystery bike" (which is essentially finished) soon and will title the thread appropriately for future reference.
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