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Bottle cage to fit over front derailleur clamp?

Old 03-22-17, 04:12 AM
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Bottle cage to fit over front derailleur clamp?

anyone have one they like? this clamp is not centered between the two screws

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Old 03-22-17, 04:49 AM
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I haven't bought a cage like that in years, but Blackburn used to make some. If you need something ASAP you could always us a regular cage with slightly longer bolts and put a few washers behind it.
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Interesting location. Hadn't seen that before. Count on it being on a Schwinn, so innovative!
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Vintage cages typically had a dog leg in the mounting tabs and would fit over that derailleur strap.

I guess many vintage cages would work. Off the top of my head, look at the Zefal vintage style cage or the Blackburn "Chicane" cage. Nitto cages would also fit, but that would probably be overkill.
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I have that low mount on the seat tube as well. I like it... low.
I mounted a Specialized Road Tool frame pump first, which then gave clearance for the water cage over it.
I actually wanted the frame pump.
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Use nuts from presta valves as a washer, any cage should fit
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
plastics frame pump mount
oh yeah I think I have 1 or more of those kicking around in a drawer
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Old 03-22-17, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SJX426 View Post
Interesting location
yeah, a little dumb
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine View Post
Vintage cages typically had a dog leg in the mounting tabs and would fit over that derailleur strap
was thinking of those but wasn't sure it would provide enough clearance. maybe with some washers like mongol777 suggested
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Old 03-22-17, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SJX426 View Post
Interesting location. Hadn't seen that before. Count on it being on a Schwinn, so innovative!
This location is quite common, especially on ATBs where increased standover clearance and bottom bracket height results in shorter seat tubes.
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Not so dumb really on small frames

Not meaning to offend, but for us vertically challenged folks this is the way to go.
It seems like most bike put the bottle brazeon locations the same distance up[ from the bottom on all their frames.
Makes it difficult to use larger water bottle on small frames like I ride (47-49cm).
I had to make up a spacer bar to lower the seatpost bottle on my Roberts.
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yeah, a little dumb
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I can understand limited access. My wifes bike is almost that bad.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
This location is quite common, especially on ATBs where increased standover clearance and bottom bracket height results in shorter seat tubes.
yeah I'm seeing "mountain bike" cages that accommodate going over the clamp like this blue one by blackburn. and maybe something like this ibera (at Walmart?) wold fit?

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I used alloy spacers I bought at the hardware store. They come in different lengths & widths & are matte silver. They're great for all sorts of mounting solutions.
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen View Post
I used alloy spacers I bought at the hardware store. They come in different lengths & widths & are matte silver. They're great for all sorts of mounting solutions.
oh yeah, right I recently used some plastic ones to extend my mini clips. better than a bunch of washers I would be fumbling with
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Originally Posted by mongol777 View Post
Use nuts from presta valves as a washer, any cage should fit
+ 1. That's what I did on my 1993 Bridgesone XO 2; works like a champ.
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Actually, keeping a bottle filled with water, weight low on a bike can only positively contribute to its stability......
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
was thinking of those but wasn't sure it would provide enough clearance. maybe with some washers like mongol777 suggested
Usually it did provide enough clearance. Just bolt it on. This mounting location was somewhat common in the 80s.

If it doesn't quite fit you can always use standoff spacers as suggested by others.

Blackburn MTB cage would have been most common choice for a MTB or hybrid bike of this period.
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Not that it really matters to us creaking knees racers, that bottle location is the 'hot setup'. Weight in low CG position but also the kids working at the wind tunnel studies claim its the most aero advantage for bikes. cheer's
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Spacers came on my MTB from the factory.

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Spacers came on my MTB from the factory
well that was decent of them, huh? what brand?
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
...and maybe something like this ibera (at Walmart?) wold fit?

I have a similar Ibera cage on a bike, except mine is aluminum. It works to get around the derailleur clamp issue, but it's not the easiest cage to get a bottle into. It also tends to come loose -- I'm guessing because the top half and bottom half of the cage flex relative to one another, turning the mounting screws back and forth a little bit every time I put a bottle in or take it out.
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well that was decent of them, huh? what brand?
Diamond Back.

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Problem Solvers Space Outs are designed for that problem.
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This type of cage would work but you would probably still have to use spacers to get a water bottle init.

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