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Recognize these Dia-Compe Canti's

Old 03-22-17, 01:53 PM
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Recognize these Dia-Compe Canti's

I have a Nishiki Riviera GT that is just a little bit larger than I usually ride. So I thought that I would swap the 27 x 1 1/4 wheels with 700C and see what happens.

It is a touring bike with canti's, and some of those can be a problem; so I robbed a wheel & tire (700 x 38) from a Schwinn Crisscross and put it on the front. I was able to get the brakes to touch the rim exactly where I wanted.

I figure that I have lost 4mm in height with 38mm tires. So now if I use 32mm tires, I should be in my comfort range, and that does not factor in a shorter stem (which I may consider).

I couldn't find a model # on the brakes, but here a a few pix.

I would like to know more about these brakes.
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These are 960's. I have these on my Viva Touring with 27-inchers. There was a thread a while back where the owner had a Miyata 310 with these and swapped out the 27" for 700c without any issues, just like you did.

EDIT: My mistake - it was a Miyata 210, but everything else applies. Pity that the pics no longer work, as it was a very pretty bike: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...g-rebuild.html

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The new set up is pretty close to the end of practical range of adjustment of pad/rim arrangement. So how the actually worm on the road is the final test. The fork looks to have the posts pretty close together which requires the canti arm angle splay out a lot, not the best for power but will work. I mention this because if the OP decided to try other cantis this rim width/post width issue might prove to be a challenge to get good set up and stopping with reasonable pad/rim clearances. There are a number of threads in this forum about this.


While these DC canties do have a pad angle range with the ball and socket design they don't have pad height adjustment without the canti arm angle also changing. Modern cantis have this additional adjustment capability.


Many thousands of bikes used these cantis (DC 960?). Many riders found them to be fully capable. many riders who moved onto more recent bikes and therefore brakes too find that revisiting their old bike/brakes have them changing their opinions about the old cantis. Andy.
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Thanks. I must admit that I have not pulled them off and cleaned them up (obvious in the pix); but I did perform the mechanic stool orbit and photographs. This bike has been neglected and sitting too long, so I will make it mine or sell it.
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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
The new set up is pretty close to the end of practical range of adjustment of pad/rim arrangement. So how the actually worm on the road is the final test. The fork looks to have the posts pretty close together which requires the canti arm angle splay out a lot, not the best for power but will work. I mention this because if the OP decided to try other cantis this rim width/post width issue might prove to be a challenge to get good set up and stopping with reasonable pad/rim clearances. There are a number of threads in this forum about this.


While these DC canties do have a pad angle range with the ball and socket design they don't have pad height adjustment without the canti arm angle also changing. Modern cantis have this additional adjustment capability.


Many thousands of bikes used these cantis (DC 960?). Many riders found them to be fully capable. many riders who moved onto more recent bikes and therefore brakes too find that revisiting their old bike/brakes have them changing their opinions about the old cantis. Andy.
I agree with your assessment of the brakes, they are at the end of their adjustment range. I'll work on that this week to see if I can improve the performance a bit. My second purchased bike was a Nishiki Competition so I have a soft spot for the model.
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