Why So Many New Old Stock (NOS) Bertins?
03-15-17, 02:45 PM
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Dallas
Posts: 7
Bikes: 1988 Bridgestone RB3 updated; 1986 Raleigh Grand Prix ss conversion
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Why So Many New Old Stock (NOS) Bertins?
Over the past few years there have been a zillion NOS Bertin frames on Ebay. Almost all of them are red, and most have never been built. Does anyone know why? Was a warehouse full of frames discovered in the French countryside or something?
Cheers
JD
Cheers
JD
03-15-17, 04:10 PM
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Niagara Region, Canada
Posts: 1,451
Bikes: 1970s Alex Singer, 1960s Peugeot PX 10, 1960s Bertin C37, 1973 Carre Bertin C 37, 1972 Carlton Kermesse, 1981 Peugeot PX 14 Super Competition
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 266 Times
in
157 Posts
jdnzero-
I have seen restored Bertin framesets on EBay from Adrian at the Flying Wheel in New Zealand but not NOS. There have been a series of NOS Legnanos from a European warehouse, though.
I have seen restored Bertin framesets on EBay from Adrian at the Flying Wheel in New Zealand but not NOS. There have been a series of NOS Legnanos from a European warehouse, though.
03-15-17, 06:12 PM
#3
"part timer"
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tidewater VA
Posts: 622
Bikes: 1975 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1978 Bertin C35, 1982 Trek 614, 1983 Trek 620, 1984 Nishiki Seral, 1995 Mercian Ko’M, 1998 Fisher HKEK, 2000 Rivendell RS, 2001 Heron Touring, 2016 Nobilette Custom
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 114 Post(s)
Liked 160 Times
in
61 Posts
I don't think there have been zillions - it's the same half dozen or so that no one bids on, relisted over and over for years on end. They're modern tig-welded frames - not vintage.
03-16-17, 09:20 AM
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Niagara Region, Canada
Posts: 1,451
Bikes: 1970s Alex Singer, 1960s Peugeot PX 10, 1960s Bertin C37, 1973 Carre Bertin C 37, 1972 Carlton Kermesse, 1981 Peugeot PX 14 Super Competition
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 266 Times
in
157 Posts
Thanks for the nudge, Super LJ. I think the ones being referred to are like these :
These red, black/yellow and yellow framesets are tigged steel Bertins and Bertin produced Nickel branded framesets from the last few years of Bertin production. I have a final year Bertin catalogue and the illustrations match closely with the EBay ads. Once Cycles Bertin left the business, a lot of NOS got sold off and I suspect these framesets were among that closeout process.
These red, black/yellow and yellow framesets are tigged steel Bertins and Bertin produced Nickel branded framesets from the last few years of Bertin production. I have a final year Bertin catalogue and the illustrations match closely with the EBay ads. Once Cycles Bertin left the business, a lot of NOS got sold off and I suspect these framesets were among that closeout process.
Last edited by bertinjim; 03-16-17 at 09:39 AM.
03-16-17, 04:12 PM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 14,242
Mentioned: 415 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3802 Post(s)
Liked 3,324 Times
in
2,170 Posts
-----
A few years back there was a good deal of Bertin/Milremo merchandise which came up on ebay from former importer/retailer R.C. Hallett of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Evidently items which had been in storage since the closure of his business. Readers with long memories may recall his display adverts in Bicycling! magazine back in the 1970's.
-----
A few years back there was a good deal of Bertin/Milremo merchandise which came up on ebay from former importer/retailer R.C. Hallett of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Evidently items which had been in storage since the closure of his business. Readers with long memories may recall his display adverts in Bicycling! magazine back in the 1970's.
-----
03-16-17, 04:21 PM
#6
Stop reading my posts!
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 12,570
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1439 Post(s)
Liked 1,054 Times
in
781 Posts
Thanks for the nudge, Super LJ. I think the ones being referred to are like these :
These red, black/yellow and yellow framesets are tigged steel Bertins and Bertin produced Nickel branded framesets from the last few years of Bertin production. I have a final year Bertin catalogue and the illustrations match closely with the EBay ads. Once Cycles Bertin left the business, a lot of NOS got sold off and I suspect these framesets were among that closeout process.
These red, black/yellow and yellow framesets are tigged steel Bertins and Bertin produced Nickel branded framesets from the last few years of Bertin production. I have a final year Bertin catalogue and the illustrations match closely with the EBay ads. Once Cycles Bertin left the business, a lot of NOS got sold off and I suspect these framesets were among that closeout process.
03-16-17, 05:03 PM
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Niagara Region, Canada
Posts: 1,451
Bikes: 1970s Alex Singer, 1960s Peugeot PX 10, 1960s Bertin C37, 1973 Carre Bertin C 37, 1972 Carlton Kermesse, 1981 Peugeot PX 14 Super Competition
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 266 Times
in
157 Posts
unworthy1-
My 2000 catalogue shows the Bertin C 3000 series frameset as 3 main tubes Columbus Thron Mega with stays and forks as unidentified Cro-Mo. The C 6000 are Columbus Foco with a Look carbon fork. The bright yellow Nickel branded framesets look like re-labeled C 1000 Bertins which were Hi-Tensile in both the frame and forks.
My 2000 catalogue shows the Bertin C 3000 series frameset as 3 main tubes Columbus Thron Mega with stays and forks as unidentified Cro-Mo. The C 6000 are Columbus Foco with a Look carbon fork. The bright yellow Nickel branded framesets look like re-labeled C 1000 Bertins which were Hi-Tensile in both the frame and forks.
03-16-17, 05:17 PM
#8
"part timer"
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tidewater VA
Posts: 622
Bikes: 1975 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1978 Bertin C35, 1982 Trek 614, 1983 Trek 620, 1984 Nishiki Seral, 1995 Mercian Ko’M, 1998 Fisher HKEK, 2000 Rivendell RS, 2001 Heron Touring, 2016 Nobilette Custom
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 114 Post(s)
Liked 160 Times
in
61 Posts
-----
A few years back there was a good deal of Bertin/Milremo merchandise which came up on ebay from former importer/retailer R.C. Hallett of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Evidently items which had been in storage since the closure of his business. Readers with long memories may recall his display adverts in Bicycling! magazine back in the 1970's.
-----
A few years back there was a good deal of Bertin/Milremo merchandise which came up on ebay from former importer/retailer R.C. Hallett of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Evidently items which had been in storage since the closure of his business. Readers with long memories may recall his display adverts in Bicycling! magazine back in the 1970's.
-----
03-16-17, 05:20 PM
#9
Stop reading my posts!
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 12,570
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1439 Post(s)
Liked 1,054 Times
in
781 Posts
unworthy1-
My 2000 catalogue shows the Bertin C 3000 series frameset as 3 main tubes Columbus Thron Mega with stays and forks as unidentified Cro-Mo. The C 6000 are Columbus Foco with a Look carbon fork. The bright yellow Nickel branded framesets look like re-labeled C 1000 Bertins which were Hi-Tensile in both the frame and forks.
My 2000 catalogue shows the Bertin C 3000 series frameset as 3 main tubes Columbus Thron Mega with stays and forks as unidentified Cro-Mo. The C 6000 are Columbus Foco with a Look carbon fork. The bright yellow Nickel branded framesets look like re-labeled C 1000 Bertins which were Hi-Tensile in both the frame and forks.
03-23-17, 04:11 PM
#10
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Dallas
Posts: 7
Bikes: 1988 Bridgestone RB3 updated; 1986 Raleigh Grand Prix ss conversion
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
That makes sense... that they closed shop and sold all their remaining stock at auction or to a vulture who's selling them off slowly. It's been a few years now, but I had to filter through a lot of those on Ebay when I bought my first frame ('88 Bridgestone RB3), and I'm seeing identical red Bertins there to this day.
Thanks y'all.
Thanks y'all.
