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Old 03-31-17, 04:19 PM
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what can $1000 get for a new, steel, C*V ish bike

For those curious as to what new, under $1000 bikes with some degree of C&Vish look like here ares some sample

seems like claris is the standard. pics in most C&Vish order imho


from this link Tommaso Illimitate | The Best Road Bikes You Can Buy for Under $1,000 | Men's Journal





Linus Libertine $899



Raleigh Grand Sport $799



Jamis Quest Sport $739

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You can get much nicer, if you go real vintage for a thousand clams.
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I just can't get used to the look of any road bike with such sloping top tuhes. Based on that, I put the Linus Libertine as best value for $1Kish....
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Originally Posted by Vonruden View Post
You can get much nicer, if you go real vintage for a thousand clams.
Agree 100% this puts that into perspective
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Shinola Detroit Arrow. U.S. made, single speed:

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Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
I just can't get used to the look of any road bike with such sloping top tubes. Based on that, I put the Linus Libertine as best value for $1Kish....
I had a steel frame custom-fitted, and it came out looking a bit like that. It is the most comfortable bike I have ever owned. I agree that aesthetically, the horizontal top tube looks nicer, but to get that kind of fit, I need to add a clown-stem.
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Interesting timing - I happened across that article today, too. I pulled up the Linus site out of curiosity, and the Libertine II (no drop bar version of the Libertine) is listed as 33 lbs. Even basic sport touring bikes were under 30 lbs in the '70s. They say it's got a double butted chromoly frame and fork, so those must be rather heavy components. I wish Linus well, but I'm not impressed by this one.
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I think I want the Raleigh. purrfect commuter.
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I just can't get used to the look of any road bike with such sloping top tuhes. Based on that, I put the Linus Libertine as best value for $1Kish....
I bought a Jamis Quest in 2011, mainly because of the steel frame. The ride is superb. When you are riding it, you can't really see how much slope the top tube has.
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You can get a custom $1,000 frame from Mercian and transfer parts from a used donor bike.
Homepage - Mercian

You can get this Polish bike for $660. There are fancier versions with the Tange tubing too. https://cremecycles.com/man-echo-series,30,pl.html
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/u.../rp-prod138575


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I'm not sold on any of those bikes, but I will point out that the Linus is the only one with a threaded quill stem. IMO, that rules out many C&V- inspired new steel bikes. Personally, if the Wabi geared bike had a 1" steerer tube and could take a traditional quill stem it would be in my garage as we speak.
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
I had a steel frame custom-fitted, and it came out looking a bit like that. It is the most comfortable bike I have ever owned. I agree that aesthetically, the horizontal top tube looks nicer, but to get that kind of fit, I need to add a clown-stem.
I'm willing to ldo be with clown stems to get a comfortable fit. A sloping to tube might be slightly preferable.
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The Linus looks okay I suppose, the others have the sloping top tubes which always make me think like, oh, a girl's bike.
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Still makes me shake my head when I see that a decent new bike has to cost $800
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
I had a steel frame custom-fitted, and it came out looking a bit like that. It is the most comfortable bike I have ever owned. I agree that aesthetically, the horizontal top tube looks nicer, but to get that kind of fit, I need to add a clown-stem.
Yup.
Some loathe the comfortable high stack height of modern sloping top tube frames.
Others loathe Technomic stems propped up 6" over the headset.


Its a pick your poison sorta deal. I love me some level top tubes, but have no love for the 6" of quill stem many need to make level top tubes fit.
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That white Creme bike is gorgeous. That would be my pick, hands down. It's even decently light at just over 23 lbs, according to CRC.
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Did I read somewhere that the Shinola frames are made by a pretty well established builder...maybe Waterford?
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
I had a steel frame custom-fitted, and it came out looking a bit like that. It is the most comfortable bike I have ever owned. I agree that aesthetically, the horizontal top tube looks nicer, but to get that kind of fit, I need to add a clown-stem.
+ 1. There is a lot to be said for a sloping top tube in terms of bike fit. It's a good design.
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+ 1. There is a lot to be said for a sloping top tube in terms of bike fit. It's a good design.

Agreed.

There are excellent examples out there.

This is one of my favorites on Curt Goodrich's website.

IMG_6519 by curt_goodrich, on Flickr
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Did I read somewhere that the Shinola frames are made by a pretty well established builder...maybe Waterford?

Yes.

States that their frames are made in Waterford, Wisconsin on the Shinola website.
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz View Post
Did I read somewhere that the Shinola frames are made by a pretty well established builder...maybe Waterford?

Yep.., Waterford.
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Originally Posted by Barabaika View Post
You can get a custom $1,000 frame from Mercian and transfer parts from a used donor bike.
Homepage - Mercian

You can get this Polish bike for $660. There are fancier versions with the Tange tubing too. Creme Cycles - Creme
Creme Echo Solo Bike 2017 | Chain Reaction Cycles

The Creme bike with Tange Prestige looks pretty awesome.

Creme Echo Tange Bike 2017 | Chain Reaction Cycles
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Yep.., Waterford.
https://www.shinola.com/thejournal/p...l-called-steel

They use True Temper, according to this.
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I just picked up a Raleigh RXS and gotta say that Raleigh is offering some pretty sweet bikes for the money.

If you do some searching on this forum you can find a way to get a pretty large discount on their bikes.

Of course 1k will get you a vintage frame with all of the modern creature comforts.
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Originally Posted by Vonruden View Post
You can get much nicer, if you go real vintage for a thousand clams.
For some reason, I don't mind the sloping top tube on a big-tubed aluminum or carbon fiber frame. But for a skinny tubed steel frame, I just don't like the looks. And a sloping TT on a steel bike is not at all classic looking, to me.
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