Does anyone build a modern reproduction of a turn of the century racer?
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Does anyone build a modern reproduction of a turn of the century racer?
Anyone know of anyone who builds a modern reproduction of a turn of the century racer like this:
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Build one, you can usually find turn of the century framesets at decent prices. 700c wheels will fit, standard one piece cranks. BAM your done. Usually bikes that old are only worth a lot of money if they are complete, it way to hard and expensive to track down the original missing parts. So frames are usually affordable, thecabe and ratrodbikes are 2 good sites to buy and browse for ideas, other people have done this. Lots of times people will take off the original wood wheels and leather saddle, put 700c wheels and a different saddle so they can ride it.
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I agree with Sloar's post above - why not build your own? Alternately, if the goal is primarily to make a bike that looks/rides like something from the turn of the last century, how about a resto-mod to make something like the Pashley already posted out of a newer frame? There's loads of pictures and posts online about road bikes setup with inverted north road handlebars, and they ride and look great, plus going that route gives you the freedom to customize the bike for your riding needs.
The bike I commute on most was inspired by that turn of the century style, the parts are all modern, but riding posture is straight out of 1900:
The bike I commute on most was inspired by that turn of the century style, the parts are all modern, but riding posture is straight out of 1900:
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I'm planning to do this somewhere down the line (currently into later decades with my projects), and suspect that if I go the "resto-mod" route that I'll likely use a Schwinn Varsity frame and fork to start things off. The welded construction and geometry are about as close as one can get to an early 20th century frame without actually purchasing an antique. The bonuses include them being inexpensive and compatible with many modern components without quirks.
Good luck!
-Gregory
edit: There's a long thread at Rat Rod Bikes where many folks show off their "Pashley" style resto-mods, many of which are actually quite inspiring. Check it out.
https://ratrodbikes.com/forum/index.p...e-bikes.23043/
Good luck!
-Gregory
edit: There's a long thread at Rat Rod Bikes where many folks show off their "Pashley" style resto-mods, many of which are actually quite inspiring. Check it out.
https://ratrodbikes.com/forum/index.p...e-bikes.23043/
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Build one, you can usually find turn of the century framesets at decent prices. 700c wheels will fit, standard one piece cranks. BAM your done. Usually bikes that old are only worth a lot of money if they are complete, it way to hard and expensive to track down the original missing parts. So frames are usually affordable, thecabe and ratrodbikes are 2 good sites to buy and browse for ideas, other people have done this. Lots of times people will take off the original wood wheels and leather saddle, put 700c wheels and a different saddle so they can ride it.
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No, but I did have built for me a frame to be what a turn of the century racer might have evolved to had freewheels and gear never been invented. A fix gear designed to use flip-flop wheels, fixed on both sides with a dropout (not track end) that allows anything between 12 and 24 teeth to be used without messing with the chain.
Conceived as an '80s racing bike except the drive train. I made no attempt to be period correct since the concept itself isn't. The bike is a modern largish diameter ti frame, steel fork, quill stem, alloy bars, good braked front and rear, pump peg, WB bosses. Highish BB. Handles like a racing pedigree. A step up from what I raced 40 years ago, but related. (One big concession - clinchers.)
Come to a hill and it is stop, pull out the wrench (strapped and velcro'd under the tool bag - very fast), pull the wheel, drop the chain on the pump peg, flip, replace the chain, tighten the nuts and go. 2 minutes.
This bike has ridden 4 Cycle Oregons and has yet to coast. The most fun bike I have owned (and also my mistress. Mistress not as a woman used for you know what but "mistress" as the feminine of "master". When we ride, she's in charge, not me. Jessica J.)
Edit: It's the bike in my logo. If someone can tell me how to post the picture here, I will do it in good resolution.
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Conceived as an '80s racing bike except the drive train. I made no attempt to be period correct since the concept itself isn't. The bike is a modern largish diameter ti frame, steel fork, quill stem, alloy bars, good braked front and rear, pump peg, WB bosses. Highish BB. Handles like a racing pedigree. A step up from what I raced 40 years ago, but related. (One big concession - clinchers.)
Come to a hill and it is stop, pull out the wrench (strapped and velcro'd under the tool bag - very fast), pull the wheel, drop the chain on the pump peg, flip, replace the chain, tighten the nuts and go. 2 minutes.
This bike has ridden 4 Cycle Oregons and has yet to coast. The most fun bike I have owned (and also my mistress. Mistress not as a woman used for you know what but "mistress" as the feminine of "master". When we ride, she's in charge, not me. Jessica J.)
Edit: It's the bike in my logo. If someone can tell me how to post the picture here, I will do it in good resolution.
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I like the physical lines of the Bicileta better but it looses out to the Pashley video wise.
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That's a pretty old racer frameteam2003.
Just as a PSA for those who don't know, you can still buy wooden rims if you really want to play at being a early 20th century scorcher. I remember talking to some of the old geezers when I was a teen about wood rims. They said they were the fastest thing going, but would sometimes fail catastrophically and without warning. Sound familiar? Back to the future.
Just as a PSA for those who don't know, you can still buy wooden rims if you really want to play at being a early 20th century scorcher. I remember talking to some of the old geezers when I was a teen about wood rims. They said they were the fastest thing going, but would sometimes fail catastrophically and without warning. Sound familiar? Back to the future.
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One thing I find interesting about these threads (or, more accurately, ones like the Rat Rod Bikes thread linked above) is that so many people go for the basic overall look, but it's so rare to see builds that actually have geometry even close to the Guv'nor and early 20th-century bikes. To me, that's a huge part of both the look and the feel.
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What about early 80s mountain bikes? Some of them are especially slack, I remember seeing a particularly funny looking once made by dawes whose chain and seat stays were just ridiculously long.
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It's only been 17 years since the turn of the century. Bikes haven't changed that much.
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One thing I find interesting about these threads (or, more accurately, ones like the Rat Rod Bikes thread linked above) is that so many people go for the basic overall look, but it's so rare to see builds that actually have geometry even close to the Guv'nor and early 20th-century bikes. To me, that's a huge part of both the look and the feel.
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I think many would be surprised by the effort some spend trying to RRaR (rat-rod a ride) bike, car or otherwise.
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One thing I find interesting about these threads (or, more accurately, ones like the Rat Rod Bikes thread linked above) is that so many people go for the basic overall look, but it's so rare to see builds that actually have geometry even close to the Guv'nor and early 20th-century bikes. To me, that's a huge part of both the look and the feel.
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Another vote for building your own. I wanted the 50s path racer look, but with a bit quicker handling and lighter weight. Got a good deal on a 1964 Holdsworth Typhoon frameset and built it up with alloy components from the co-op. The 531 straight gauge frameset built up into a 25lb single speed bike. Yeah, I know that the wheels should have high flange hubs, but this pair was a $25 co-op bargain. High flanges are in the future. Picture attached.
If you want to match the laid back look and handling of those early path racers, start with an old Raleigh Sports and build it up with whatever strikes your fancy. You'll end up with a close match to the performance of a vintage path racer without investing a ton of money and a better understanding of their purpose.
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If you want to match the laid back look and handling of those early path racers, start with an old Raleigh Sports and build it up with whatever strikes your fancy. You'll end up with a close match to the performance of a vintage path racer without investing a ton of money and a better understanding of their purpose.
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I like the Guv'nor more, but Pashley also makes the Speed 5. Looks like no one ships them. I'd have to make an 8 hour drive to the nearest dealer.
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Here is my 1941 Schwinn World "Path Racer" I built and I have a similar one made out of a 1970s Raleigh 3 speed. You could remove the chain guard to make the Schwinn look more correct. Roger